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		By: Jane Mccracken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I deleted narcissist nearly a week ago today. I had only been talking to him for several months and ignored every red flag. He broke up with me previously a month ago i didnt hear from him for 3 days and than he contacted me. I hope he doesnt hoover again this time as i just want my life back at this stage. I have blocked him everywhere possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deleted narcissist nearly a week ago today. I had only been talking to him for several months and ignored every red flag. He broke up with me previously a month ago i didnt hear from him for 3 days and than he contacted me. I hope he doesnt hoover again this time as i just want my life back at this stage. I have blocked him everywhere possible.</p>
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		By: Kitty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2022 07:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve heard of the cell phone game. What about the social media game? My ex only wants to be on social media if he has a current partner for that reason only. My ex followed a pattern. When his first wife left, he deleted his FB acct which had pictures of the two of them everywhere. He posted nothing else. When he met me, he created another acct &quot;just for me&quot; and I mean that literally. He posted nothing but photos of the two of us or posts pertaining to our relationship. When he discarded four years later, same. Deleted his FB acct when I left. Created another acct a few weeks later with his new supply. Same pattern. Only posts info if it pertains to his relationship. It seemed as though he wanted to get my attention by triangulating, so I avoided his page and told my friends to stop relaying his whereabouts. It&#039;s as though FB is their fake world stage.          
                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Why do I say &#039;fake&#039;? You know what he does NOT post? The fact that she has stolen 15K from him. The fact that he found out she&#039;s homeless and has no credit score. The fact that he wants to evict her in but she threatened to take the script he wrote her to the medical board(he&#039;s a physician). The fact that he moved her in quickly when he discarded me (for his issues with loneliness, he says) without a basic google check on her. The fact that she&#039;s known locally for conning men on dating sites. The fact that she has serious psychiatric conditions. The fact that he called me crying two months into his new relationship for my legal advice and reconciliation, frantically texted me for two days that he missed me and I&#039;m the only person with whom he can live (whatever that is supposed to mean). When I refused to take him back, back to lovey-dovey FB posts everywhere! I haven&#039;t been looking at his page. This gets back to me through my friends who have witnessed his behavior and read all of his texts to me. They think he&#039;s completely insane and dangerous. As an adult, I tried to politely ignore his page and do my own thing. Well, he had to have been stalking my page. I deleted all common contacts when I left him and there&#039;s no ties, yet he reacted to a public post I posted with a sad emoji. That startled me since he has always stalked me digitally and insisted on buying all my technical devices. I found a hidden network on my computer just a month ago which I had never installed myself. Unplugged all my surveillance. He is still trying to get my attention by any means possible since I&#039;ve ignored any further texts he sent.                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Now, I finally understand why blocking/no contract is advised. They want to stay on your mind forever, make you feel guilty for leaving(even if they discarded), make you feel it&#039;s your fault the marriage ended and you should take them back after they&#039;ve discarded you like yesterday&#039;s trash, the same way they are willing to discard the new supply for you as though she&#039;s trash, too. It&#039;s the craziest thing. There&#039;s no loyalty. No empathy. He even referred to her as &quot;more convenient to me in location right now&quot;. He has been angry that I refused to sell my own home an hour away and hadn&#039;t yet found renters interested. In hindsight, he wanted me to have nowhere to go when devaluation began. If the new supply is homeless, she more controllable. I never thought such evil existed in a marriage. You realize that the one person who vowed to love and protect you, they had an agenda to destroy you if you didn&#039;t let yourself be completely controlled. I&#039;m still in shock five months later. This is something nobody saw coming. Not my family, my friends, my minister, my cat, nobody. He was that good at appearing to genuinely care about me. Actually, I&#039;m worried what he&#039;ll do next. I&#039;m just beginning to date after this discard five months ago. I&#039;ve heard that&#039;s when they get more dangerous if they find out. What are we supposed to do, live in a bubble?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of the cell phone game. What about the social media game? My ex only wants to be on social media if he has a current partner for that reason only. My ex followed a pattern. When his first wife left, he deleted his FB acct which had pictures of the two of them everywhere. He posted nothing else. When he met me, he created another acct &#8220;just for me&#8221; and I mean that literally. He posted nothing but photos of the two of us or posts pertaining to our relationship. When he discarded four years later, same. Deleted his FB acct when I left. Created another acct a few weeks later with his new supply. Same pattern. Only posts info if it pertains to his relationship. It seemed as though he wanted to get my attention by triangulating, so I avoided his page and told my friends to stop relaying his whereabouts. It&#8217;s as though FB is their fake world stage.          </p>
<p>Why do I say &#8216;fake&#8217;? You know what he does NOT post? The fact that she has stolen 15K from him. The fact that he found out she&#8217;s homeless and has no credit score. The fact that he wants to evict her in but she threatened to take the script he wrote her to the medical board(he&#8217;s a physician). The fact that he moved her in quickly when he discarded me (for his issues with loneliness, he says) without a basic google check on her. The fact that she&#8217;s known locally for conning men on dating sites. The fact that she has serious psychiatric conditions. The fact that he called me crying two months into his new relationship for my legal advice and reconciliation, frantically texted me for two days that he missed me and I&#8217;m the only person with whom he can live (whatever that is supposed to mean). When I refused to take him back, back to lovey-dovey FB posts everywhere! I haven&#8217;t been looking at his page. This gets back to me through my friends who have witnessed his behavior and read all of his texts to me. They think he&#8217;s completely insane and dangerous. As an adult, I tried to politely ignore his page and do my own thing. Well, he had to have been stalking my page. I deleted all common contacts when I left him and there&#8217;s no ties, yet he reacted to a public post I posted with a sad emoji. That startled me since he has always stalked me digitally and insisted on buying all my technical devices. I found a hidden network on my computer just a month ago which I had never installed myself. Unplugged all my surveillance. He is still trying to get my attention by any means possible since I&#8217;ve ignored any further texts he sent.                       </p>
<p>Now, I finally understand why blocking/no contract is advised. They want to stay on your mind forever, make you feel guilty for leaving(even if they discarded), make you feel it&#8217;s your fault the marriage ended and you should take them back after they&#8217;ve discarded you like yesterday&#8217;s trash, the same way they are willing to discard the new supply for you as though she&#8217;s trash, too. It&#8217;s the craziest thing. There&#8217;s no loyalty. No empathy. He even referred to her as &#8220;more convenient to me in location right now&#8221;. He has been angry that I refused to sell my own home an hour away and hadn&#8217;t yet found renters interested. In hindsight, he wanted me to have nowhere to go when devaluation began. If the new supply is homeless, she more controllable. I never thought such evil existed in a marriage. You realize that the one person who vowed to love and protect you, they had an agenda to destroy you if you didn&#8217;t let yourself be completely controlled. I&#8217;m still in shock five months later. This is something nobody saw coming. Not my family, my friends, my minister, my cat, nobody. He was that good at appearing to genuinely care about me. Actually, I&#8217;m worried what he&#8217;ll do next. I&#8217;m just beginning to date after this discard five months ago. I&#8217;ve heard that&#8217;s when they get more dangerous if they find out. What are we supposed to do, live in a bubble?</p>
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		By: choco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 07:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m currently experiencing this, its started with a text from him around 5 months ago, but I ignored and blocked it immediately (couldn&#039;t change cellphone number yet, due to most of my bank accounts,etc are connected here), then soon after that text, I started to receive phone calls on our landline which, when we answer, there&#039;s no voice or sound at all. (Sad that we don&#039;t have a caller ID) and its been 5 months, and the call still hasn&#039;t stop. I&#039;m getting anxious about it honestly, I couldn&#039;t have the landline number change as my fam especially my dad has no idea about this. I do plan to just ignore/ stop answering the call. My only worry is, what if he suddenly show up in our house. (he knows where I live sadly). I can&#039;t move, since I don&#039;t have a place to move out to and I don&#039;t want to leave my family, as I&#039;m scared he might do something to them. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently experiencing this, its started with a text from him around 5 months ago, but I ignored and blocked it immediately (couldn&#8217;t change cellphone number yet, due to most of my bank accounts,etc are connected here), then soon after that text, I started to receive phone calls on our landline which, when we answer, there&#8217;s no voice or sound at all. (Sad that we don&#8217;t have a caller ID) and its been 5 months, and the call still hasn&#8217;t stop. I&#8217;m getting anxious about it honestly, I couldn&#8217;t have the landline number change as my fam especially my dad has no idea about this. I do plan to just ignore/ stop answering the call. My only worry is, what if he suddenly show up in our house. (he knows where I live sadly). I can&#8217;t move, since I don&#8217;t have a place to move out to and I don&#8217;t want to leave my family, as I&#8217;m scared he might do something to them. 🙁</p>
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		By: jane kelley		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2021 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Zari, this is a great article! I just found you and I&#039;m so glad. I&#039;ve been having trouble deciphering whether the man I was recently involved with is a narcissist or not. He did love bomb me at the beginning and wrote me a love letter entitled &quot;Heart Awakening&quot; after just 3 weeks of dating. At the beginning, he wanted to see me ALL the time, and I had to slow down the pace. He started telling me he loved me every day around week 4 and spoke often of buying a house together and future marriage and children. But he would also play hot and cold, come up with a romantic idea, then forget about it or shrug it off when I would bring it up again. He would come extremely close, then when I would reciprocate, he would pull away.. couldn&#039;t tell if it was fear of intimacy (though he had been married for several years and divorced for over a year), or just a control tactic. A couple months in, I started to realize he was extremely shallow and cared mostly about looks and appearance. He would comment often on others&#039; looks and different parts of my body, how beautiful I was, and how lucky he was that he was the man who got to have me. He is also a personal trainer and obsessed with the gym, even inspired me to get back into the gym and working out (a positive takeaway). He even did one of those men&#039;s physique fit shows with the fake tan and shaved body and everything. He would talk about his ex-wife (or ex-girlfriends sometimes) and even compare me, talk about how great or &quot;high-value&quot; they were, but then in the next sentence tell me how bad or greedy they were. He would mention how his ex was so materialistic and that he was so glad I wasn&#039;t like that, or that I didn&#039;t have fake breasts or fake nails like she did. I couldn&#039;t tell if he was just trying to share his life experiences with me, or &quot;triangulate&quot; me (more control)! I told him many times I didn&#039;t want to hear about the ex stuff, but he would bring it up in insidious ways.. He would say really sweet things or suggest fun activities, but when I would hold him to what he had said, or offered to do, he would get moody and shut down. Like, it always had to be his idea (to take a trip, to help move a lawnmower, even to talk about the kind of house we wanted to have together). At the end, he wouldn&#039;t even pick me up from the airport when I got back to town. So two days later, I confronted him over the phone saying &quot;I&#039;m willing to work on the relationship but....&quot; and he flipped like a switch saying &quot;yeah we moved kinda fast, I got freaked out and started backpedaling, I really can&#039;t do more than two days a week with you, we live kinda far, I don&#039;t really need to be with my partner very much, I prefer quality time over amount of time with my partner&quot; etc. So I broke up with him, and he seemed cold about it (when just a week before he was &quot;so in love&quot; with me and acting needy). 10 days later, he sent a sappy cryptic text about a Whitney Houston love song that made him think of me that he just had to share because it made him &quot;feel&quot; something strong. I haven&#039;t responded. Is he hovering me and sending mixed signals again / just trying to get a reaction? Is he just emotionally unstable and messed up? Or is he really thinking of me and wanting to reconnect but not sure how to go about it? Please help if you can! Need a professional outside opinion.
Thank you xx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zari, this is a great article! I just found you and I&#8217;m so glad. I&#8217;ve been having trouble deciphering whether the man I was recently involved with is a narcissist or not. He did love bomb me at the beginning and wrote me a love letter entitled &#8220;Heart Awakening&#8221; after just 3 weeks of dating. At the beginning, he wanted to see me ALL the time, and I had to slow down the pace. He started telling me he loved me every day around week 4 and spoke often of buying a house together and future marriage and children. But he would also play hot and cold, come up with a romantic idea, then forget about it or shrug it off when I would bring it up again. He would come extremely close, then when I would reciprocate, he would pull away.. couldn&#8217;t tell if it was fear of intimacy (though he had been married for several years and divorced for over a year), or just a control tactic. A couple months in, I started to realize he was extremely shallow and cared mostly about looks and appearance. He would comment often on others&#8217; looks and different parts of my body, how beautiful I was, and how lucky he was that he was the man who got to have me. He is also a personal trainer and obsessed with the gym, even inspired me to get back into the gym and working out (a positive takeaway). He even did one of those men&#8217;s physique fit shows with the fake tan and shaved body and everything. He would talk about his ex-wife (or ex-girlfriends sometimes) and even compare me, talk about how great or &#8220;high-value&#8221; they were, but then in the next sentence tell me how bad or greedy they were. He would mention how his ex was so materialistic and that he was so glad I wasn&#8217;t like that, or that I didn&#8217;t have fake breasts or fake nails like she did. I couldn&#8217;t tell if he was just trying to share his life experiences with me, or &#8220;triangulate&#8221; me (more control)! I told him many times I didn&#8217;t want to hear about the ex stuff, but he would bring it up in insidious ways.. He would say really sweet things or suggest fun activities, but when I would hold him to what he had said, or offered to do, he would get moody and shut down. Like, it always had to be his idea (to take a trip, to help move a lawnmower, even to talk about the kind of house we wanted to have together). At the end, he wouldn&#8217;t even pick me up from the airport when I got back to town. So two days later, I confronted him over the phone saying &#8220;I&#8217;m willing to work on the relationship but&#8230;.&#8221; and he flipped like a switch saying &#8220;yeah we moved kinda fast, I got freaked out and started backpedaling, I really can&#8217;t do more than two days a week with you, we live kinda far, I don&#8217;t really need to be with my partner very much, I prefer quality time over amount of time with my partner&#8221; etc. So I broke up with him, and he seemed cold about it (when just a week before he was &#8220;so in love&#8221; with me and acting needy). 10 days later, he sent a sappy cryptic text about a Whitney Houston love song that made him think of me that he just had to share because it made him &#8220;feel&#8221; something strong. I haven&#8217;t responded. Is he hovering me and sending mixed signals again / just trying to get a reaction? Is he just emotionally unstable and messed up? Or is he really thinking of me and wanting to reconnect but not sure how to go about it? Please help if you can! Need a professional outside opinion.<br />
Thank you xx</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Feb 2020 23:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-22/#comment-11369&quot;&gt;Sophia Ross&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Sophia, The answer to your question is that yes, some will absolutely do that just to see if you will answer the phone or respond to a text, given how they know you feel. It&#039;s all about what they can get away with.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-22/#comment-11369">Sophia Ross</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Sophia, The answer to your question is that yes, some will absolutely do that just to see if you will answer the phone or respond to a text, given how they know you feel. It&#8217;s all about what they can get away with.</p>
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		By: Sophia Ross		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2019 13:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I told my ex Narc that he disgusts me &#038; made it clear that I’m sorry I ever allowed him in my life. I have blocked him on everything &#038; been no contact for 10 months. My life is good. Do these creatures still hoover a person who has expressed no interest in them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told my ex Narc that he disgusts me &amp; made it clear that I’m sorry I ever allowed him in my life. I have blocked him on everything &amp; been no contact for 10 months. My life is good. Do these creatures still hoover a person who has expressed no interest in them?</p>
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		By: Fabulous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2019 23:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My significant other is a good person. He helps out with things. Comes and leaves on time. 
Strange thing is when he is angry he can go on for 6 days of not talking and  very rarely initates repair. What saves us is that we don’t argue often. This happens every six months. I hate every time it happens. I want to be able to have a two way conversation that leads to a resolution. If I attempt repair he will just throw comments that will stir me up and shove me away.  It is very confusing when this happens. Makes you feel like this person can live without you. 
I wonder if it is part of just regular relationship crap that I just have to accept or is there a reason behind such odd behavior that does not bring two people closer. 
He also has poor self analysis. He once told me he has difficulty talking about feelings. That he is extremely angry. 

I just dunno how after 6 days you can still respond like a jerk. 

What he does right:

Helps at home 
Comes on time 
Usually supportive of my ideas if not mad


The odd thing is he does not initiate repair and will often shove you away when you initiate repair. 

This is odd and  very odd. Why I don’t think he goes around? 
Because he leaves and comes home on time. 
Because I don’t sense that he drools over other women. 
He really does not get rejected at home. 

Only way to cheat is to say he is going to work when in fact he is not. 

He does use his phone often but does not seem to hide it from me and I usually catch him playing some board games or reading the news. Nothing else. 

But this behavior seems off. Started to wonder if every man has this difficulty to communicate. 

I wonder if this is an ego issue because at day 6 he can still shove you away. Maybe he wants to be chased. Of course being pushed away means I won’t call during the day or when he gets home.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My significant other is a good person. He helps out with things. Comes and leaves on time.<br />
Strange thing is when he is angry he can go on for 6 days of not talking and  very rarely initates repair. What saves us is that we don’t argue often. This happens every six months. I hate every time it happens. I want to be able to have a two way conversation that leads to a resolution. If I attempt repair he will just throw comments that will stir me up and shove me away.  It is very confusing when this happens. Makes you feel like this person can live without you.<br />
I wonder if it is part of just regular relationship crap that I just have to accept or is there a reason behind such odd behavior that does not bring two people closer.<br />
He also has poor self analysis. He once told me he has difficulty talking about feelings. That he is extremely angry. </p>
<p>I just dunno how after 6 days you can still respond like a jerk. </p>
<p>What he does right:</p>
<p>Helps at home<br />
Comes on time<br />
Usually supportive of my ideas if not mad</p>
<p>The odd thing is he does not initiate repair and will often shove you away when you initiate repair. </p>
<p>This is odd and  very odd. Why I don’t think he goes around?<br />
Because he leaves and comes home on time.<br />
Because I don’t sense that he drools over other women.<br />
He really does not get rejected at home. </p>
<p>Only way to cheat is to say he is going to work when in fact he is not. </p>
<p>He does use his phone often but does not seem to hide it from me and I usually catch him playing some board games or reading the news. Nothing else. </p>
<p>But this behavior seems off. Started to wonder if every man has this difficulty to communicate. </p>
<p>I wonder if this is an ego issue because at day 6 he can still shove you away. Maybe he wants to be chased. Of course being pushed away means I won’t call during the day or when he gets home.</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2019 08:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-22/#comment-11174&quot;&gt;Lori&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lori...yes, a new cell number should always be suspect. I mean, who DOES that? A narc, that&#039;s who!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-22/#comment-11174">Lori</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lori&#8230;yes, a new cell number should always be suspect. I mean, who DOES that? A narc, that&#8217;s who!!</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Almost two years since our break up whichni instigated due to all the signs of cheating being there. Last night he texts saying please can you start the divorce as no point being attached to each other like this. By the way i really did love you. Then i find out hes rung my dad crying about me putting his stuff out for him to collect 18 months ago..which he asked me to do..and that he doesnt knownwhat hes done wrong! Oh and yes...a new cell phone number..never even thought about the reasons for that until i read your article!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost two years since our break up whichni instigated due to all the signs of cheating being there. Last night he texts saying please can you start the divorce as no point being attached to each other like this. By the way i really did love you. Then i find out hes rung my dad crying about me putting his stuff out for him to collect 18 months ago..which he asked me to do..and that he doesnt knownwhat hes done wrong! Oh and yes&#8230;a new cell phone number..never even thought about the reasons for that until i read your article!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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I tell you I need help in the most desperate way.his games are killing me]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds crazy. For my 47 yo.son is a personification of a narcissist. If you can help me with some advice and insight<br />
I tell you I need help in the most desperate way.his games are killing me</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2019 06:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-11047&quot;&gt;crystal&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Crystal,

Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I hope to God you have gotten away from this horrible person. I am very familiar with that weird tactic of narcs of making you think they have something important to say but then they either do not show up or they pretend they don&#039;t know what you are talking about. It&#039;s not that complicated, girl. All it is is a way to keep you on the hook and in a heightened state of anxiety. Stop taking his calls, do not respond to his texts. He left you high and dry girl and you made it six months. You can do it again. This is a new year:)....xo]]></description>
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<p>Hi Crystal,</p>
<p>Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I hope to God you have gotten away from this horrible person. I am very familiar with that weird tactic of narcs of making you think they have something important to say but then they either do not show up or they pretend they don&#8217;t know what you are talking about. It&#8217;s not that complicated, girl. All it is is a way to keep you on the hook and in a heightened state of anxiety. Stop taking his calls, do not respond to his texts. He left you high and dry girl and you made it six months. You can do it again. This is a new year:)&#8230;.xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 08:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so my ex after leaving me pregnant and used the silent treatment on me the whole time decided to after 6 months move back and text me we need to talk. I agreed to meet with him and wanted him to talk because I had constantly sent emails letters. I was done telling my side of the story but of course ended up being the only one talking. he said he had no idea what he did wrong. now has been texting me for a week constantly asking me questions about what I meant when I said this or that I keep happily offering up everything like an idiot. now he keeps texting crystal, I need to tell you something can we meet I need to see you in person. I say yes then get ready then call him and he says, maybe another time not a big deal. then I get pissed and tell him thanks a lot now I&#039;m an hour early to work so I get to sit in my car and has not even responded to me or about it. I keep asking him wth he meant when he said never mind ill take care of it myself. he refuses to answer . what does it mean when someone always acts as if they have to tell you something important and to keep you guessing all the time then act as if they never said anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so my ex after leaving me pregnant and used the silent treatment on me the whole time decided to after 6 months move back and text me we need to talk. I agreed to meet with him and wanted him to talk because I had constantly sent emails letters. I was done telling my side of the story but of course ended up being the only one talking. he said he had no idea what he did wrong. now has been texting me for a week constantly asking me questions about what I meant when I said this or that I keep happily offering up everything like an idiot. now he keeps texting crystal, I need to tell you something can we meet I need to see you in person. I say yes then get ready then call him and he says, maybe another time not a big deal. then I get pissed and tell him thanks a lot now I&#8217;m an hour early to work so I get to sit in my car and has not even responded to me or about it. I keep asking him wth he meant when he said never mind ill take care of it myself. he refuses to answer . what does it mean when someone always acts as if they have to tell you something important and to keep you guessing all the time then act as if they never said anything?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2018 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-10956&quot;&gt;Jenn Rockefeller&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow Jenn...thank you. You are absolutely right. So, I go to the article to post a comment telling the &quot;admin&quot; that this is my article and it is waiting moderation. I click on &quot;contact us&quot; and &quot;contact&quot; and &quot;about&quot; down at the bottom and nothing. It keeps me on the same page. The only good thing is that they kept the links in it so it will come back to my site if people click on the article links. But yeah, I have a feeling there are a whole bunch of articles on this website that belong to other writers. Thank you so much for letting me know. I appreciate it very much!

Zari:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-10956">Jenn Rockefeller</a>.</p>
<p>Wow Jenn&#8230;thank you. You are absolutely right. So, I go to the article to post a comment telling the &#8220;admin&#8221; that this is my article and it is waiting moderation. I click on &#8220;contact us&#8221; and &#8220;contact&#8221; and &#8220;about&#8221; down at the bottom and nothing. It keeps me on the same page. The only good thing is that they kept the links in it so it will come back to my site if people click on the article links. But yeah, I have a feeling there are a whole bunch of articles on this website that belong to other writers. Thank you so much for letting me know. I appreciate it very much!</p>
<p>Zari:)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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http://ushealthupdate.com/a-narcissist-always-returns-the-hoovering/]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://ushealthupdate.com/a-narcissist-always-returns-the-hoovering/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ushealthupdate.com/a-narcissist-always-returns-the-hoovering/</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My wife and I separated in 2016 after a bad fight. she moved in with her mother and we still talked, went out and spoke about repairing our relationship. My father died in July that year and she was dead set on showing up around my family as my father counted his last days. Shortly after that, we got back together. I found out that about a month after we separated she was dating this guy. She was so BOLD to have sent me a pic of the back of this guy with a caption. i asked who he was and she said, a friend of the family. I eventually put 2 and 2 together and realized she was in a relationship with him while we were separated. That led to another fight and separation. Fast forward when we got back together again, went through counseling, I found out she had PD. 2017 this guy is back to emailing her and she blamed him and said now she has to deal with my BS. 2018, in August, she flipped on me about work and said she was done (after she took a job 5 minutes from where he was living). A week later, I saw him going into the hotel she had been staying at for &quot;work&quot;. She brought him to our home to collect her things. For a month I felt like everything was my fault, I was the bad person. She couldnt even give me the truth in the end even though I could see EVERY message in the iPad she left to him. He has now moved out of his wife&#039;s home to live in hotels with her up until a few weeks ago where they now have an apt together. He is now all over her social media kissing and she blocked me 1 month after she was posting pics of us at my family&#039;s. I told her how much of a narcissist she was in an email and subsequent (minutes later) I get a text from her mother whom I havent spoken to since 2017 when her mother passed. I came across something on Pintrest and realized I&#039;ve been with a NPD for 5 yrs! After further curiosity and reading about the disorder and posts and blogs, it&#039;s like someone wrote my life out without knowing anything about it! Nothing is her fault, her cheating which she doesnt acknowledge and blamed me for giving her the opportunity to meet him, her lies even when called out to her she bullies me through overtalking yelling and becoming irrate, anything a normal wife would ask their wife became an inflamed argument. and the weirdest part of it all is that she&#039;s been with women for 13yrs and after our 2nd separation, she has been targeting men for attention, soliciting sex meet ups from Ashley Madison and Tinder. It&#039;s like I didnt know this woman. After we got back together, i always had this sense of uneasiness. Every situation she is the victim or the hero. She made MY life better, her past relationships were abusive or someone else was cheating, and now i am the &quot;abuser&quot; and has suffered by the hands of me for 5 years. Deflections, lies, everything you can think of has happened over our 5 years. Now that she is gone, I initially hated the guy and thought he was an opportunist. Now I feel sorry for him. He has no idea what&#039;s coming his way and the fact that he has older kids (21 and 16), I hope they don&#039;t get exposed to her. Everyone around me could see through her and that&#039;s why she isolated me from my friends. She hated my friends I went to college with (especially the psych professionals) and never wanted to be around them. But she enjoyed being around my other group of friends who are not as &quot;well off&quot; as her and I were. She even lied to me about how much she made and working 80hrs a week only to come across a stub of 45hrs 1 of the week and HALF the salary she told me. So I assume she was warming up her next target/familiar target she kept in touch with. I can&#039;t image living your entire life under the same script with different characters. She even calls him now the pet name she gave me. I was hurt, felt thrown away like trash, she could care less about all the bills and the animals she left me with, then angry, all the stages of grief. The only thing she wanted was a laptop i bought her and an iPad and to cherry pick the house of items we bought to furnish their new apartment. Hellz no! She even looked me in my eyes and told me he is 100% her soul mate. Now I know WHO she is and how she thinks and her inability to love of feel loved, I somewhat feel sorry for her. I know she will come back again when she realizes she is not his priority and can no longer afford the lifestyle she had with me. But I have engaged the NO CONTACT contract with myself. No more hoovering here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I separated in 2016 after a bad fight. she moved in with her mother and we still talked, went out and spoke about repairing our relationship. My father died in July that year and she was dead set on showing up around my family as my father counted his last days. Shortly after that, we got back together. I found out that about a month after we separated she was dating this guy. She was so BOLD to have sent me a pic of the back of this guy with a caption. i asked who he was and she said, a friend of the family. I eventually put 2 and 2 together and realized she was in a relationship with him while we were separated. That led to another fight and separation. Fast forward when we got back together again, went through counseling, I found out she had PD. 2017 this guy is back to emailing her and she blamed him and said now she has to deal with my BS. 2018, in August, she flipped on me about work and said she was done (after she took a job 5 minutes from where he was living). A week later, I saw him going into the hotel she had been staying at for &#8220;work&#8221;. She brought him to our home to collect her things. For a month I felt like everything was my fault, I was the bad person. She couldnt even give me the truth in the end even though I could see EVERY message in the iPad she left to him. He has now moved out of his wife&#8217;s home to live in hotels with her up until a few weeks ago where they now have an apt together. He is now all over her social media kissing and she blocked me 1 month after she was posting pics of us at my family&#8217;s. I told her how much of a narcissist she was in an email and subsequent (minutes later) I get a text from her mother whom I havent spoken to since 2017 when her mother passed. I came across something on Pintrest and realized I&#8217;ve been with a NPD for 5 yrs! After further curiosity and reading about the disorder and posts and blogs, it&#8217;s like someone wrote my life out without knowing anything about it! Nothing is her fault, her cheating which she doesnt acknowledge and blamed me for giving her the opportunity to meet him, her lies even when called out to her she bullies me through overtalking yelling and becoming irrate, anything a normal wife would ask their wife became an inflamed argument. and the weirdest part of it all is that she&#8217;s been with women for 13yrs and after our 2nd separation, she has been targeting men for attention, soliciting sex meet ups from Ashley Madison and Tinder. It&#8217;s like I didnt know this woman. After we got back together, i always had this sense of uneasiness. Every situation she is the victim or the hero. She made MY life better, her past relationships were abusive or someone else was cheating, and now i am the &#8220;abuser&#8221; and has suffered by the hands of me for 5 years. Deflections, lies, everything you can think of has happened over our 5 years. Now that she is gone, I initially hated the guy and thought he was an opportunist. Now I feel sorry for him. He has no idea what&#8217;s coming his way and the fact that he has older kids (21 and 16), I hope they don&#8217;t get exposed to her. Everyone around me could see through her and that&#8217;s why she isolated me from my friends. She hated my friends I went to college with (especially the psych professionals) and never wanted to be around them. But she enjoyed being around my other group of friends who are not as &#8220;well off&#8221; as her and I were. She even lied to me about how much she made and working 80hrs a week only to come across a stub of 45hrs 1 of the week and HALF the salary she told me. So I assume she was warming up her next target/familiar target she kept in touch with. I can&#8217;t image living your entire life under the same script with different characters. She even calls him now the pet name she gave me. I was hurt, felt thrown away like trash, she could care less about all the bills and the animals she left me with, then angry, all the stages of grief. The only thing she wanted was a laptop i bought her and an iPad and to cherry pick the house of items we bought to furnish their new apartment. Hellz no! She even looked me in my eyes and told me he is 100% her soul mate. Now I know WHO she is and how she thinks and her inability to love of feel loved, I somewhat feel sorry for her. I know she will come back again when she realizes she is not his priority and can no longer afford the lifestyle she had with me. But I have engaged the NO CONTACT contract with myself. No more hoovering here!</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-10863&quot;&gt;A survivor&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi survivor,

Being deleted off social media is the NORM and I&#039;ve never heard of it slowing down or eliminating a hoover. However, you can&#039;t be wondering or worried about that. You have to act as if he is never going to hoover and get along with your life. There is no time to waste....

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-10863">A survivor</a>.</p>
<p>Hi survivor,</p>
<p>Being deleted off social media is the NORM and I&#8217;ve never heard of it slowing down or eliminating a hoover. However, you can&#8217;t be wondering or worried about that. You have to act as if he is never going to hoover and get along with your life. There is no time to waste&#8230;.</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2018 20:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[how certain is it that the hoover will occur even after he deleted me off social media? i&#039;m 4 weeks into radio silence after a blow-up fight when i found out he was lying to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how certain is it that the hoover will occur even after he deleted me off social media? i&#8217;m 4 weeks into radio silence after a blow-up fight when i found out he was lying to me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,

My narc boyfriend, whom I met over a year ago, wound himself back into my life after several months no contact.
Long story short, he moved in for 3 months before hell broke loose.
It was on it&#039;s way down as all the stories go and the formula by which this man lives by is down to the T! Incredible how predictable, I wish I read this site&#039;s blogs before.....

he moved out just over a month ago, his first messages to me were about 3 weeks in and he started off well, but when I declined to meet up for a drink, he went off saying terrible things.
I never cared, had feelings, had heart, knew what I wanted, know who I am.
I am selfish, evil, a liar, have had men in my bed.

On and on. OH and he is in love with one woman only and i made him realise that it wasn&#039;t me and he is back with her.
(remember he asked me for a drink before this &quot;truth&quot; came out 2 hours earlier in the day).

I blocked. 2 weeks later - online message- blocked. 3 days later phone call - hung up blocked the number.
He said he misses me he wants to see me only 30 minutes, why can&#039;t we hang out, we were so close.

I have to vent because it is like NOTHING HAPPENED! Like the breakup wasn&#039;t bad, like he hadnt just moved himself into my life to become something - being the first man to move in.
Oh and like all he said 2 weeks prior and how I am not his type or a good person = didn&#039;t happen.

I am running, no contact, I want to know the following from people&#039;s experience:
1- is a narc likely to show up? or they just do the minimum- calls/msgs to get  back on track with you
2- how much attempts/rejection can a narc take?
3- if I DO see him in person ever, how do I respond, my instinct is to physically start running opposite LOL but I don&#039;t know

The truth is, the calls/msgs shook me up, re traumatized me, spoiled my mood and day during/after, it is better to hear nothing the little attempts are stabs of reminders what a non-feeling person I cared for...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>My narc boyfriend, whom I met over a year ago, wound himself back into my life after several months no contact.<br />
Long story short, he moved in for 3 months before hell broke loose.<br />
It was on it&#8217;s way down as all the stories go and the formula by which this man lives by is down to the T! Incredible how predictable, I wish I read this site&#8217;s blogs before&#8230;..</p>
<p>he moved out just over a month ago, his first messages to me were about 3 weeks in and he started off well, but when I declined to meet up for a drink, he went off saying terrible things.<br />
I never cared, had feelings, had heart, knew what I wanted, know who I am.<br />
I am selfish, evil, a liar, have had men in my bed.</p>
<p>On and on. OH and he is in love with one woman only and i made him realise that it wasn&#8217;t me and he is back with her.<br />
(remember he asked me for a drink before this &#8220;truth&#8221; came out 2 hours earlier in the day).</p>
<p>I blocked. 2 weeks later &#8211; online message- blocked. 3 days later phone call &#8211; hung up blocked the number.<br />
He said he misses me he wants to see me only 30 minutes, why can&#8217;t we hang out, we were so close.</p>
<p>I have to vent because it is like NOTHING HAPPENED! Like the breakup wasn&#8217;t bad, like he hadnt just moved himself into my life to become something &#8211; being the first man to move in.<br />
Oh and like all he said 2 weeks prior and how I am not his type or a good person = didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>I am running, no contact, I want to know the following from people&#8217;s experience:<br />
1- is a narc likely to show up? or they just do the minimum- calls/msgs to get  back on track with you<br />
2- how much attempts/rejection can a narc take?<br />
3- if I DO see him in person ever, how do I respond, my instinct is to physically start running opposite LOL but I don&#8217;t know</p>
<p>The truth is, the calls/msgs shook me up, re traumatized me, spoiled my mood and day during/after, it is better to hear nothing the little attempts are stabs of reminders what a non-feeling person I cared for&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-21/#comment-10735&quot;&gt;Braxton Wagstaff&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Braxton, 

Of course a woman can be a narcissist. In fact, in my opinion, the female narcs are worse than the male narcs could ever be. I&#039;ve written a book about it called &lt;em&gt;When Evil Is a Pretty Face&lt;/em&gt; on Amazon. I bet you&#039;d see yourself on every page...

Zari:)]]></description>
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<p>Hi Braxton, </p>
<p>Of course a woman can be a narcissist. In fact, in my opinion, the female narcs are worse than the male narcs could ever be. I&#8217;ve written a book about it called <em>When Evil Is a Pretty Face</em> on Amazon. I bet you&#8217;d see yourself on every page&#8230;</p>
<p>Zari:)</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2018 09:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-20/#comment-10626&quot;&gt;Mary&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mary,

I thought I&#039;d copy/paste your questions and take them one by one:

1). Why do I have such an issue with wanting to expose him to others? Some of our mutual friends think he is wonderful which always leaves me feeling traumatized all over again. I get the feeling that he has lied to them in regards to things about our marriage and me. We have children together so I can need fully have no contact. How do I handle these situations? &lt;strong&gt;SAY NOTHING and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/smear-campaign/&quot;&gt;read this article&lt;/a&gt; about the smear campaign. It explains everything and WHY the strategy for staying quiet ALWAYS works. We imagine that people see the narc as amazing, blah blah but the truth is that, for the most part, people see through it but never say it. And the ones that don&#039;t, who really cares. &lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Saying nothing - even in your own defense - automatically puts you in a better light. I promise.&lt;/strong&gt;

2) I understand the issues of Narcissism now that I have done my own reasearch / reading. I actually feel empathy for him based on his childhood etc.. and the reasons for his disorder. This sends me reeling into more self doubt that I could have done more or I need to show him love etc because his disorder is not something he choose etc… I feel out of control trying to regulate my emotions. &lt;strong&gt;Nope, don&#039;t feel sorry for him. They all have a sob story about their childhood and we&#039;ve all spent many years sympathizing and having empathy over their &quot;situation&quot;. What good did that do us? We don&#039;t have to feel sorry for everyone in this world. If you and I stood in front of a room full of narcs and told them how we know deep down they don&#039;t feel love because they were never shown love as a child so therefore we forgive them, they&#039;d laugh us out of the building. Narcs get along in society just fine. They like themselves just the way that they are. They know right from wrong, they just don&#039;t give a shit. How much sympathy can you have for that? &lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Save your compassion for those who are deserving, girl.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Nothing you could have ever done would have fixed him. Nothing at all.&lt;/strong&gt;

3). My children are still confused. They are 21 &amp; 14. He plays games with them as well. Love booming then silent treatment. I want them to understand this disorder but it looks self serving. I don’t want them to become narc themselves or empaths like me in their future relationships. How do I help them? &lt;strong&gt;Your children are fairly grown and I&#039;m sure that they understand more than you know. All you can do there is be sympathetic when they show hurt over his behaviors, be the absolute best mom you can be, and don&#039;t talk smack about dad. That last tip goes with your first question above - the concept is the same. Find the humor in his nonsense with your kids so that it doesn&#039;t feel so personal. Don&#039;t look down about it, look nonchalant. With you as a mom, they will be just fine. As for letting them in on the secret (that dad&#039;s an N), it would depend how close you are with them. If they are that confused, casually say, &quot;Have you ever heard of narcissism?&quot; and explain it&#039;s a personality disorder that could explain dad&#039;s behavior. Find an article and show it to them, one that lists the traits. I wouldn&#039;t make it a totally serious conversation...again, nonchalant is key. I think they may appear more confused to you than they really are. The important thing is that they know it&#039;s not their fault. And by the way, &lt;em&gt;there&#039;s nothing wrong with being an empath so don&#039;t hope the opposite for your children.&lt;/em&gt; Empaths don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;make&lt;/em&gt; a narcissist. Narcissist&#039;s just so happen to target empaths. In a healthy relationship with the right person, empathy both ways can be awesome!&lt;/strong&gt;

4). He is dating now. Poor girl. He has introduced the kids to her, but forbids the kids from letting me know about her. Why?
I think it wrong to ask them to lie to me. It only makes them feel worse. Why does he do this? &lt;strong&gt;This is a common thing and it&#039;s really no big deal. When a divorce is less than amicable, most dads do this narcissistic or not. But it&#039;s really okay because why would you want to know about her anyway? Obviously, you &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; know about her because they told you, right? Let it be your secret with them that you know and simply don&#039;t bring it up or ask questions. If they want to offer up information, well that&#039;s fine but other than that, there&#039;s just no need to talk about it. Thankfully, your children are old enough so that you don&#039;t have to worry about an evil girlfriend caring for your kids on his time with them. That is great news! Basically, if you don&#039;t make a big deal about her or him not wanting you to know, it will take the load off of the kids. In this case, the truth is what you don&#039;t know can&#039;t hurt you. If you had a boyfriend, it really would be none of his business, right? Same concept:)&lt;/strong&gt;

I hope that helps, sister!

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-20/#comment-10626">Mary</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mary,</p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d copy/paste your questions and take them one by one:</p>
<p>1). Why do I have such an issue with wanting to expose him to others? Some of our mutual friends think he is wonderful which always leaves me feeling traumatized all over again. I get the feeling that he has lied to them in regards to things about our marriage and me. We have children together so I can need fully have no contact. How do I handle these situations? <strong>SAY NOTHING and <a href="http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/smear-campaign/">read this article</a> about the smear campaign. It explains everything and WHY the strategy for staying quiet ALWAYS works. We imagine that people see the narc as amazing, blah blah but the truth is that, for the most part, people see through it but never say it. And the ones that don&#8217;t, who really cares. </strong> <strong>Saying nothing &#8211; even in your own defense &#8211; automatically puts you in a better light. I promise.</strong></p>
<p>2) I understand the issues of Narcissism now that I have done my own reasearch / reading. I actually feel empathy for him based on his childhood etc.. and the reasons for his disorder. This sends me reeling into more self doubt that I could have done more or I need to show him love etc because his disorder is not something he choose etc… I feel out of control trying to regulate my emotions. <strong>Nope, don&#8217;t feel sorry for him. They all have a sob story about their childhood and we&#8217;ve all spent many years sympathizing and having empathy over their &#8220;situation&#8221;. What good did that do us? We don&#8217;t have to feel sorry for everyone in this world. If you and I stood in front of a room full of narcs and told them how we know deep down they don&#8217;t feel love because they were never shown love as a child so therefore we forgive them, they&#8217;d laugh us out of the building. Narcs get along in society just fine. They like themselves just the way that they are. They know right from wrong, they just don&#8217;t give a shit. How much sympathy can you have for that? </strong> <strong>Save your compassion for those who are deserving, girl.</strong> <strong>Nothing you could have ever done would have fixed him. Nothing at all.</strong></p>
<p>3). My children are still confused. They are 21 &#038; 14. He plays games with them as well. Love booming then silent treatment. I want them to understand this disorder but it looks self serving. I don’t want them to become narc themselves or empaths like me in their future relationships. How do I help them? <strong>Your children are fairly grown and I&#8217;m sure that they understand more than you know. All you can do there is be sympathetic when they show hurt over his behaviors, be the absolute best mom you can be, and don&#8217;t talk smack about dad. That last tip goes with your first question above &#8211; the concept is the same. Find the humor in his nonsense with your kids so that it doesn&#8217;t feel so personal. Don&#8217;t look down about it, look nonchalant. With you as a mom, they will be just fine. As for letting them in on the secret (that dad&#8217;s an N), it would depend how close you are with them. If they are that confused, casually say, &#8220;Have you ever heard of narcissism?&#8221; and explain it&#8217;s a personality disorder that could explain dad&#8217;s behavior. Find an article and show it to them, one that lists the traits. I wouldn&#8217;t make it a totally serious conversation&#8230;again, nonchalant is key. I think they may appear more confused to you than they really are. The important thing is that they know it&#8217;s not their fault. And by the way, <em>there&#8217;s nothing wrong with being an empath so don&#8217;t hope the opposite for your children.</em> Empaths don&#8217;t <em>make</em> a narcissist. Narcissist&#8217;s just so happen to target empaths. In a healthy relationship with the right person, empathy both ways can be awesome!</strong></p>
<p>4). He is dating now. Poor girl. He has introduced the kids to her, but forbids the kids from letting me know about her. Why?<br />
I think it wrong to ask them to lie to me. It only makes them feel worse. Why does he do this? <strong>This is a common thing and it&#8217;s really no big deal. When a divorce is less than amicable, most dads do this narcissistic or not. But it&#8217;s really okay because why would you want to know about her anyway? Obviously, you <em>do</em> know about her because they told you, right? Let it be your secret with them that you know and simply don&#8217;t bring it up or ask questions. If they want to offer up information, well that&#8217;s fine but other than that, there&#8217;s just no need to talk about it. Thankfully, your children are old enough so that you don&#8217;t have to worry about an evil girlfriend caring for your kids on his time with them. That is great news! Basically, if you don&#8217;t make a big deal about her or him not wanting you to know, it will take the load off of the kids. In this case, the truth is what you don&#8217;t know can&#8217;t hurt you. If you had a boyfriend, it really would be none of his business, right? Same concept:)</strong></p>
<p>I hope that helps, sister!</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting a divorce from a narcissist and its a messy one.  He filed.  I found out that he had been having a 3 year long affair that started before he moved out.  Once we separated he never tried to come back and kept me on an emotional roller coaster ride acting like he wanted to work out our problems and then the next day he was angry and abusive.  The new supply is 10 years younger than me and has a really good job.  I understand she has been married 4 times and cheated on each one with the the next husband.  My question is this&#8230;.will he ever have any regrets as to what he has done to me and will he try to come back.  I do not want him back!  Our whole marriage was nothing but an abusive roller coaster ride and he nearly mentally and physically broke me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 17:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Zari-
Thank you for being a voice for those who have suffered from Narc abuse.  After 25 years I am finally divorced from my narcissistic husband. Please help me understand the following...

1).  Why do I have such an issue with wanting to expose him to others?   Some of our mutual friends think he is wonderful which always leaves me feeling traumatized all over again. I get the feeling that he has lied to them in regards to things about our marriage and me.      We have children together so I can need fully have no contact.  How do I handle these situations?   

2) I understand the issues of Narcissism now that I have done my own reasearch / reading.   I actually feel empathy for him based on his childhood etc.. and the reasons for his disorder.  This sends me reeling into more self doubt that I could have done more or I need to show him love etc because his disorder is not something he choose etc... I feel out of control trying to regulate my emotions. 

3). My children are still confused.  They are 21 &#038; 14.  He plays games with them as well.  Love booming then silent treatment.  I want them to understand this disorder but it looks self serving.   I don’t want them to become narc themselves or empaths like me in their future relationships.   How do I help them?

4). He is dating now. Poor girl.   He has introduced the kids to her, but forbids the kids from letting me know about her.  Why? 
I think it wrong to ask them to lie to me.  It only makes them feel worse.   Why does he do this?

I appreciate you help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zari-<br />
Thank you for being a voice for those who have suffered from Narc abuse.  After 25 years I am finally divorced from my narcissistic husband. Please help me understand the following&#8230;</p>
<p>1).  Why do I have such an issue with wanting to expose him to others?   Some of our mutual friends think he is wonderful which always leaves me feeling traumatized all over again. I get the feeling that he has lied to them in regards to things about our marriage and me.      We have children together so I can need fully have no contact.  How do I handle these situations?   </p>
<p>2) I understand the issues of Narcissism now that I have done my own reasearch / reading.   I actually feel empathy for him based on his childhood etc.. and the reasons for his disorder.  This sends me reeling into more self doubt that I could have done more or I need to show him love etc because his disorder is not something he choose etc&#8230; I feel out of control trying to regulate my emotions. </p>
<p>3). My children are still confused.  They are 21 &amp; 14.  He plays games with them as well.  Love booming then silent treatment.  I want them to understand this disorder but it looks self serving.   I don’t want them to become narc themselves or empaths like me in their future relationships.   How do I help them?</p>
<p>4). He is dating now. Poor girl.   He has introduced the kids to her, but forbids the kids from letting me know about her.  Why?<br />
I think it wrong to ask them to lie to me.  It only makes them feel worse.   Why does he do this?</p>
<p>I appreciate you help.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2018 03:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-20/#comment-10601&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Eric, I write from a female perspective because it&#039;s my blog, I&#039;m a girl, and my ex-boyfriend was the narcissist. Where I can, I use the &quot;him/her&quot; and &quot;he/she&quot; but it doesn&#039;t always fit my story. To make up for this, I&#039;ve written an apology article for male victims which you can read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/male-victims-of-narcissists/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and I wrote a book for the guys called &lt;em&gt;When Evil Is a Pretty Face&lt;/em&gt; which you can buy &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TNHK9UC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I have always said that the guys have it tougher because the female narc is so very scandalous and...well...she&#039;s a girl and a girl narc can get away with more things than the male narc. I hope that clears up the confusion...and hank you for sharing any time:)

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-returns-hoovering/comment-page-20/#comment-10601">Eric</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Eric, I write from a female perspective because it&#8217;s my blog, I&#8217;m a girl, and my ex-boyfriend was the narcissist. Where I can, I use the &#8220;him/her&#8221; and &#8220;he/she&#8221; but it doesn&#8217;t always fit my story. To make up for this, I&#8217;ve written an apology article for male victims which you can read <a href="http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/male-victims-of-narcissists/">here</a> and I wrote a book for the guys called <em>When Evil Is a Pretty Face</em> which you can buy <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TNHK9UC" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I have always said that the guys have it tougher because the female narc is so very scandalous and&#8230;well&#8230;she&#8217;s a girl and a girl narc can get away with more things than the male narc. I hope that clears up the confusion&#8230;and hank you for sharing any time:)</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2018 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why is it referred to as a man?  I have been through this three times w a girl....  it about destroyed me!]]></description>
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