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		By: Jan Corpron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Spent 53 years married to this jerk. Last 11 years as a caregiver to him after he had a stroke. Abuse continued when I had to drive everywhere...was threatened with the fist, words (of course). Was shocked to read the diagnosis that he was a narcissist. My therapist had mentioned it, but it didn&#039;t sink in until I started reading the information. Yes, I endured the cheating (he left me 4 times), the degradation, the loss of my self esteem and my alcoholism (I have been in recovery for a number of years in spite of him). He became ill last year and died. By that time, I hated him. I suffered some shame because I felt nothing...how could I after years of abuse?The last straw happened 3 years before he died, when he was in rehab for a broker ankle. I was late picking him up so I left my purse and phone in the car with the dog. I checked him out and went to his room. He was lying in wait for me, so when I came into the room, he slapped me as hard as he could. I left the room and had someone call the police. The police came, wouldn&#039;t let me call anyone (because it would cause more trouble) put me in a room and questioned me over and over. In the mean time, he was being cojoled by the officers who came to help. I wanted to press charges or have him taken to the hospital for evaluation, but the officers said that since he was almost 80 years old, they wouldn&#039;t arrest him. I was DONE with him and told them so. They actually wanted me to take him home. I told them I didn&#039;t care If he ended up in the street. He stayed at the rehab for several days(I paid) and because of my children, I ended up taking him back to our cabin.(He was not taking an anti-anxiety med that he needed)I thought this would fix things. My son came and helped me take him back to CA. My husband begged for forgiveness(I&#039;d heard that one before) and of course thought sex would help. From then on my heart was rock and I didn&#039;t have feelings for him. I also will never believe that the police will help in an abuse situation again. The narcissistic diagnosis fits him perfectly. I have resolved to start healing. I have felt a freedom and fear of abuse has left. There were financial and children to worry about when this started 50 years ago. We had a business together. I was so beaten and had no self esteem. The only good thing I have from this relationship are two wonderful children and three loving grandchildren. Thank you for reading this. It is the first time I have put it in writing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spent 53 years married to this jerk. Last 11 years as a caregiver to him after he had a stroke. Abuse continued when I had to drive everywhere&#8230;was threatened with the fist, words (of course). Was shocked to read the diagnosis that he was a narcissist. My therapist had mentioned it, but it didn&#8217;t sink in until I started reading the information. Yes, I endured the cheating (he left me 4 times), the degradation, the loss of my self esteem and my alcoholism (I have been in recovery for a number of years in spite of him). He became ill last year and died. By that time, I hated him. I suffered some shame because I felt nothing&#8230;how could I after years of abuse?The last straw happened 3 years before he died, when he was in rehab for a broker ankle. I was late picking him up so I left my purse and phone in the car with the dog. I checked him out and went to his room. He was lying in wait for me, so when I came into the room, he slapped me as hard as he could. I left the room and had someone call the police. The police came, wouldn&#8217;t let me call anyone (because it would cause more trouble) put me in a room and questioned me over and over. In the mean time, he was being cojoled by the officers who came to help. I wanted to press charges or have him taken to the hospital for evaluation, but the officers said that since he was almost 80 years old, they wouldn&#8217;t arrest him. I was DONE with him and told them so. They actually wanted me to take him home. I told them I didn&#8217;t care If he ended up in the street. He stayed at the rehab for several days(I paid) and because of my children, I ended up taking him back to our cabin.(He was not taking an anti-anxiety med that he needed)I thought this would fix things. My son came and helped me take him back to CA. My husband begged for forgiveness(I&#8217;d heard that one before) and of course thought sex would help. From then on my heart was rock and I didn&#8217;t have feelings for him. I also will never believe that the police will help in an abuse situation again. The narcissistic diagnosis fits him perfectly. I have resolved to start healing. I have felt a freedom and fear of abuse has left. There were financial and children to worry about when this started 50 years ago. We had a business together. I was so beaten and had no self esteem. The only good thing I have from this relationship are two wonderful children and three loving grandchildren. Thank you for reading this. It is the first time I have put it in writing.</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-5/#comment-7973&quot;&gt;Miss LM&lt;/a&gt;.

So true, my sister!  xo]]></description>
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<p>So true, my sister!  xo</p>
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		By: Miss LM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S. The additional laugh was because this was literally my ringtone for him &quot;you&#039;re a mean one Mr. Grinch&quot;!!!!! They truly are the Grinch but only when we allow. I KNOW it is hard, and it can get CONSUMING but we are free!!! And no Grinch could ever steal that. Blessing to you all from your fellow N survivor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. The additional laugh was because this was literally my ringtone for him &#8220;you&#8217;re a mean one Mr. Grinch&#8221;!!!!! They truly are the Grinch but only when we allow. I KNOW it is hard, and it can get CONSUMING but we are free!!! And no Grinch could ever steal that. Blessing to you all from your fellow N survivor.</p>
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		By: Miss LM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HAHAHH I can&#039;t help to laugh about how accurate this article is. Now looking back after a 2 year separation (still have to have minimal contact due to having 2 kids with the N) I can count how many holidays were ruined, holidays he walked out on, holidays he destroyed (literally threw tree out) etc. How many times I babied him during his holiday depression etc. until we had a baby of our own how he walked out on Christmas day. I could go on and on. Now living through that and having to develop a whole new way of dealing with him and holiday with our kids, this is what I do. I MAKE IT A SEASON ALL THE TIME. Meaning if my daughter wants to turn on Christmas lights in March, that is exactly what we do. If he has them on Christmas morning, I redo Christmas morning when they get home, from scratch. Down to leaving cookies for Santa whatever it may be. The point is that he no longer controls our joy, our happiness our celebrations OUR HOLIDAYS OUR RULES. We live by our own calendar not his. There is hope and you can all do it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHH I can&#8217;t help to laugh about how accurate this article is. Now looking back after a 2 year separation (still have to have minimal contact due to having 2 kids with the N) I can count how many holidays were ruined, holidays he walked out on, holidays he destroyed (literally threw tree out) etc. How many times I babied him during his holiday depression etc. until we had a baby of our own how he walked out on Christmas day. I could go on and on. Now living through that and having to develop a whole new way of dealing with him and holiday with our kids, this is what I do. I MAKE IT A SEASON ALL THE TIME. Meaning if my daughter wants to turn on Christmas lights in March, that is exactly what we do. If he has them on Christmas morning, I redo Christmas morning when they get home, from scratch. Down to leaving cookies for Santa whatever it may be. The point is that he no longer controls our joy, our happiness our celebrations OUR HOLIDAYS OUR RULES. We live by our own calendar not his. There is hope and you can all do it!</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2017 23:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-5/#comment-7963&quot;&gt;Thabi&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Thabi,

Yes, the Holiday Houdini...I know him well. So not worth the trouble. I don&#039;t know how you can be at the same gym (I&#039;m hearing that a lot lately!) together and still stay sane but more power to you. Just stay clear and far, far away and have a dumbbell ready to hurl if you have to.

Stay strong &amp; thank you for writing!

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-5/#comment-7963">Thabi</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Thabi,</p>
<p>Yes, the Holiday Houdini&#8230;I know him well. So not worth the trouble. I don&#8217;t know how you can be at the same gym (I&#8217;m hearing that a lot lately!) together and still stay sane but more power to you. Just stay clear and far, far away and have a dumbbell ready to hurl if you have to.</p>
<p>Stay strong &#038; thank you for writing!</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		By: Thabi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zari,

You are spot on.
The narcissist in my life was a complete cow during the Christmas season for 2 years.

It also happens that he was born on January 2. He refused to celebrate huis 35th birthday with me after I&#039;d wanted to make   He was unavailable on Christmas, this is 3 weeks after we had enjoyed a cruise holiday together as a &quot;couple&quot;.

I called it quits with him on January 8...I was fed up after the he pulled a Houdini...we no longer talk...thats a good thing.
Although we go to the same gym, we walk often past each other like strangers. He greeted me the other day...I responded in kind....he&#039;s never greeted me again since....and I&#039;m cool with  that]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zari,</p>
<p>You are spot on.<br />
The narcissist in my life was a complete cow during the Christmas season for 2 years.</p>
<p>It also happens that he was born on January 2. He refused to celebrate huis 35th birthday with me after I&#8217;d wanted to make   He was unavailable on Christmas, this is 3 weeks after we had enjoyed a cruise holiday together as a &#8220;couple&#8221;.</p>
<p>I called it quits with him on January 8&#8230;I was fed up after the he pulled a Houdini&#8230;we no longer talk&#8230;thats a good thing.<br />
Although we go to the same gym, we walk often past each other like strangers. He greeted me the other day&#8230;I responded in kind&#8230;.he&#8217;s never greeted me again since&#8230;.and I&#8217;m cool with  that</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 23:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7547&quot;&gt;esmer1974&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Esmer1974,

He&#039;ll never be gone for good so you are going to have to figure out a way to NOT let him under your skin. The power is yours as to whether he destroys you or not. Just say no. Don&#039;t answer texts. I can&#039;t remember if you said you had primary physical custody. If you do, you can take your paper to the school and tell them he is not allowed to pick her up. I did that. You might even go talk to them anyway. Have someone else show up to pick her up if you can&#039;t. Intercept him. Do not be afraid. He is obviously not worrying about anything...just doing what he wants to do. You need to do the same. It&#039;s okay, girl. This is just a game to him. It will get farther and farther apart (the visits) and the pain will diminish if you allow it. He ain&#039;t nothing but a stupid narc. See him for the bug that he is.

Thanks for the update...keep them coming:)

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7547">esmer1974</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Esmer1974,</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll never be gone for good so you are going to have to figure out a way to NOT let him under your skin. The power is yours as to whether he destroys you or not. Just say no. Don&#8217;t answer texts. I can&#8217;t remember if you said you had primary physical custody. If you do, you can take your paper to the school and tell them he is not allowed to pick her up. I did that. You might even go talk to them anyway. Have someone else show up to pick her up if you can&#8217;t. Intercept him. Do not be afraid. He is obviously not worrying about anything&#8230;just doing what he wants to do. You need to do the same. It&#8217;s okay, girl. This is just a game to him. It will get farther and farther apart (the visits) and the pain will diminish if you allow it. He ain&#8217;t nothing but a stupid narc. See him for the bug that he is.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update&#8230;keep them coming:)</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		By: esmer1974		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7296&quot;&gt;Zari Ballard&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Zara, well its been a month of bliss.. no contact nothing.  not even a Christmas or birthday card from him, his daughter turned 9 and he ignored it.  on the 18th he showed up at school as if nothing had happened pick her up from school, he has had a letter from my solicitor to state his daughter has no wish to see him at this moment in time. So several Txt messages later and a lot of abuse from him,  I will be back to see my solicitor, I was hoping he was gone for good.. but he really is wanting to destroy us. 

Esmer xx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7296">Zari Ballard</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Zara, well its been a month of bliss.. no contact nothing.  not even a Christmas or birthday card from him, his daughter turned 9 and he ignored it.  on the 18th he showed up at school as if nothing had happened pick her up from school, he has had a letter from my solicitor to state his daughter has no wish to see him at this moment in time. So several Txt messages later and a lot of abuse from him,  I will be back to see my solicitor, I was hoping he was gone for good.. but he really is wanting to destroy us. </p>
<p>Esmer xx</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 06:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-5/#comment-7484&quot;&gt;Kim Knaub&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Kim,

Haha! Love the comment about the money! 21-years is such a long time to put up with the bullshit that these monsters bring into our lives. Hopefully, you know now that YOU were never the problem. he will never admit to that, obviously, but there comes a point that we simply have to be confident in the truth that we know. It doesn&#039;t matter what he thinks or even what those who don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot; think. We will never get our closure that way so don&#039;t wait around for it. The game for them just never gets old and therefore justification never happens. Although they do know right from wrong, their brains are simply not wired to give a shit. So, do what you have to do but be sure to be confident in WHAT YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE because THAT will be the only truly worth anything at the end of the day. It&#039;s hard to walk away without him conceding but it will never happen. The best revenge is for you to be happy and free which is something he will never ever be. 

Happy New Year, sister!

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-5/#comment-7484">Kim Knaub</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Kim,</p>
<p>Haha! Love the comment about the money! 21-years is such a long time to put up with the bullshit that these monsters bring into our lives. Hopefully, you know now that YOU were never the problem. he will never admit to that, obviously, but there comes a point that we simply have to be confident in the truth that we know. It doesn&#8217;t matter what he thinks or even what those who don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221; think. We will never get our closure that way so don&#8217;t wait around for it. The game for them just never gets old and therefore justification never happens. Although they do know right from wrong, their brains are simply not wired to give a shit. So, do what you have to do but be sure to be confident in WHAT YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE because THAT will be the only truly worth anything at the end of the day. It&#8217;s hard to walk away without him conceding but it will never happen. The best revenge is for you to be happy and free which is something he will never ever be. </p>
<p>Happy New Year, sister!</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		By: Kim Knaub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2016 08:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought I was alone that maybe he was right , an I&#039;m sick in the head!! That I&#039;m the problem an I need to be nicer to him...That everything was my fault no matter what it was..I have spent 21yrs cleaning up after that worthless piece of shit..An honestly I truly hate him an believe his death would be in everyone&#039;s best interest..To morn an move on but no!! He just keeps coming back causing pure hate an discutent in the family then stands back feeding off our pain..Ever day I grow stronger my hate deeper an my desire for lovean happyness a reakiry..I  am worth the truth..An I am done being feed on an controlled in order for him to feel like a man  ..I want justification!!! But know it will never happen ..So I&#039;ll do next best thing, an take the only thing he cares about other then himself..HIS MONEY !!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was alone that maybe he was right , an I&#8217;m sick in the head!! That I&#8217;m the problem an I need to be nicer to him&#8230;That everything was my fault no matter what it was..I have spent 21yrs cleaning up after that worthless piece of shit..An honestly I truly hate him an believe his death would be in everyone&#8217;s best interest..To morn an move on but no!! He just keeps coming back causing pure hate an discutent in the family then stands back feeding off our pain..Ever day I grow stronger my hate deeper an my desire for lovean happyness a reakiry..I  am worth the truth..An I am done being feed on an controlled in order for him to feel like a man  ..I want justification!!! But know it will never happen ..So I&#8217;ll do next best thing, an take the only thing he cares about other then himself..HIS MONEY !!!!</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2016 00:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7280&quot;&gt;Anne Hawley&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Anne,

Of course he is a narcissist but the truth is that, even if I told he wasn&#039;t, that he was just an asshole, would that make all of this okay??? OMG no. Get rid of him and move on with your life. This guy is a player and a pathological liar and he doesn&#039;t deserve the time of day. His behavior is almost sociopathic. You know that this isn&#039;t good for you and for your life. He needs to be BLOCKED everywhere...the phone, FB, and all avenues of social media. He will never change because he likes this just the way that it is. All he does is get his girlfriend pregnant to shut her up and then he tells you a lie to do the same. I am sure there are many more in his web that you don&#039;t even know about. 

As sad as it is, this must all end. You deserve to be happy and he could care less if you are EVER happy as long as he can have his cake and eat it along with all the other cakes out there. Start the new year off right and kick him to the curb once and for all.

Stay strong and do the right thing...

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7280">Anne Hawley</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Anne,</p>
<p>Of course he is a narcissist but the truth is that, even if I told he wasn&#8217;t, that he was just an asshole, would that make all of this okay??? OMG no. Get rid of him and move on with your life. This guy is a player and a pathological liar and he doesn&#8217;t deserve the time of day. His behavior is almost sociopathic. You know that this isn&#8217;t good for you and for your life. He needs to be BLOCKED everywhere&#8230;the phone, FB, and all avenues of social media. He will never change because he likes this just the way that it is. All he does is get his girlfriend pregnant to shut her up and then he tells you a lie to do the same. I am sure there are many more in his web that you don&#8217;t even know about. </p>
<p>As sad as it is, this must all end. You deserve to be happy and he could care less if you are EVER happy as long as he can have his cake and eat it along with all the other cakes out there. Start the new year off right and kick him to the curb once and for all.</p>
<p>Stay strong and do the right thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2016 05:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW,,,,I always wondered why my husband was a grinch at Christmas,,,,,and disappeared into his room as soon as he could,,,,,,,that happens at family dinners too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW,,,,I always wondered why my husband was a grinch at Christmas,,,,,and disappeared into his room as soon as he could,,,,,,,that happens at family dinners too.</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 03:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7288&quot;&gt;Lara Stafford&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lara,

That situation does NOT sound fun at all. It would be one thing if he admitted at least to her behaviors but it appears he is blindsided. How does he get along with his ex? I suppose I could understand being blind to the daughter because it&#039;s his daughter AS LONG AS he sees the mom for what she is. But if he appears to be oblivious to both of their flaws...blind to the suffocating narcissism, I&#039;d REALLY have a problem with that. For you, it must be very difficult to stay quiet...I know it certainly would be hard for me. How is your relationship with your husband other than that? Fill in the blanks for me and I can give you a little better advice. Do you have to see the daughter a lot? Do you call her out and he defends her, thinking YOU are in the wrong? Once you are through these holidays, there is a new year and you can plan a new strategy to save your sanity. You deserve to be happy:)

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7288">Lara Stafford</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lara,</p>
<p>That situation does NOT sound fun at all. It would be one thing if he admitted at least to her behaviors but it appears he is blindsided. How does he get along with his ex? I suppose I could understand being blind to the daughter because it&#8217;s his daughter AS LONG AS he sees the mom for what she is. But if he appears to be oblivious to both of their flaws&#8230;blind to the suffocating narcissism, I&#8217;d REALLY have a problem with that. For you, it must be very difficult to stay quiet&#8230;I know it certainly would be hard for me. How is your relationship with your husband other than that? Fill in the blanks for me and I can give you a little better advice. Do you have to see the daughter a lot? Do you call her out and he defends her, thinking YOU are in the wrong? Once you are through these holidays, there is a new year and you can plan a new strategy to save your sanity. You deserve to be happy:)</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7277&quot;&gt;Esmer1974&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Esmer1974,

Okay, now the picture is a little clearer. Look, the truth, and I may have already said this, is that narcissists will ALWAYS dig their own parental grave - this is a GIVEN. It sounds to me as if he is in the process of doing this. You may want to see your lawyer if for no other reason than to say the exact things that you wrote to me to see what he thinks. Wouldn&#039;t it be great if he just stopped coming around and gave you both a break this holiday season. Make a commitment to yourself to NOT allow to intimidate you or your daughter in 2017. Stick to your guns and he will fade away out of boredom and disinterest. This is really all about riling YOU up, girl, so show NO EMOTION when dealing with him. Showing only DETACHMENT AND INDIFFERENCE IS KEY to your sanity. keeping all interactions between you two to ten minutes and under (even if you have to use a stopwatch). Don&#039;t talk about him at home and hopefully he will be out of sight, out of mind for your daughter. I know it&#039;s hard, believe me but YOU CAN DO THIS. If you ever want to talk about it, I do provide &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-abuse-support/&quot;&gt;consultations&lt;/a&gt; and perhaps we can get a strategy going. I&#039;m more than willing to help in any way that I can:)

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7277">Esmer1974</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Esmer1974,</p>
<p>Okay, now the picture is a little clearer. Look, the truth, and I may have already said this, is that narcissists will ALWAYS dig their own parental grave &#8211; this is a GIVEN. It sounds to me as if he is in the process of doing this. You may want to see your lawyer if for no other reason than to say the exact things that you wrote to me to see what he thinks. Wouldn&#8217;t it be great if he just stopped coming around and gave you both a break this holiday season. Make a commitment to yourself to NOT allow to intimidate you or your daughter in 2017. Stick to your guns and he will fade away out of boredom and disinterest. This is really all about riling YOU up, girl, so show NO EMOTION when dealing with him. Showing only DETACHMENT AND INDIFFERENCE IS KEY to your sanity. keeping all interactions between you two to ten minutes and under (even if you have to use a stopwatch). Don&#8217;t talk about him at home and hopefully he will be out of sight, out of mind for your daughter. I know it&#8217;s hard, believe me but YOU CAN DO THIS. If you ever want to talk about it, I do provide <a href="http://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-abuse-support/">consultations</a> and perhaps we can get a strategy going. I&#8217;m more than willing to help in any way that I can:)</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My hubby&#039;s ex is a narcissist...and so is his 20 year old daughter. She sucks the life out of the room with her monstrous self absorption and constant talk of her imaginary life. I&#039;m dreading Christmas. My husband thinks she&#039;s perfect - and she&#039;s horrible. Ten years if this and I&#039;m so tired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hubby&#8217;s ex is a narcissist&#8230;and so is his 20 year old daughter. She sucks the life out of the room with her monstrous self absorption and constant talk of her imaginary life. I&#8217;m dreading Christmas. My husband thinks she&#8217;s perfect &#8211; and she&#8217;s horrible. Ten years if this and I&#8217;m so tired.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2016 19:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zara: I am so glad I found your site.  It&#039;s so hard to completely condense what I have been through since October 2013 but it has been a horrible ride and completely within the bounds of what you describe, yet I still question &quot;is he an asshole or really a NP?&quot; I was in a long marriage that was on it&#039;s last legs when I met him through a friend of mine that was also married (they were having a little text thing going, I know stupid right? why would I want to mess with someone like that, why would I do that?) I think she is an NP as well and is no longer my friend, but needless to say he soon was onto her game and moved onto me.  And I ate it up hook line and sinker. Big good looking guy, smooth talker, in a band. After a year we finally slept together and at 42 I got pregnant by accident. The first time. Now I have forgotten to mention that he had a small child and was with a woman he said was just like his &#039;room mate&#039; .... yada yada.  I bought that too.  That I was the one he had been waiting for and I was his soul mate, he would die without me, and he was making plans to leave her and we would be together.  We even went places where his friends knew we were a thing.  Well, the roommate baby mama turns up pregnant with number two.  At the same time as me.  However, he talked me into an abortion (saying he didn&#039;t put a gun to my head to do it but saying if I didn&#039;t that we could never be together and that everyone would say I was a whore) ... he said he would stay with her to see his son born, and get his name, and then leave after the holidays.  Well, I ended up divorced, losing my everything (my own fault) and starting over, and then he discarded me the day his son was born (right before the holidays) while he was in the hospital going so far as having the cops call me saying I was harassing him because I sent him a text. I didn&#039;t threaten him with anything it was just the best way to try to control me because he knew I had pics, texts, etc.  All I could remember was laying on my bathroom floor bleeding that summer when I had the abortion and asking if he could just call me to make me feel better and he wouldn&#039;t because &quot;she was there.&quot; I sort of lost my mind that someone could just throw me away and lie to me. I had never had someone treat me like that. I then blew him up to her, her family and his family.  Which did nothing other than make me look crazy.  She took him back and said to stay away from &#039;her family&#039; ...  He told everyone I was crazy.  So 2 months later he pops back up on Facebook after disappearing and begins tap dancing all around showing his ass and commenting after me so I was sure to see him.  Then we begin it again, he comes back and this time he promises that he will really go.  He gets caught by her a few weeks into it (oh he also proposed to her at xmas day because &quot;everyone hated him and he had to do something and he thought he might as well stay with her because he said I hated him, nice cop out there but I bought it).  So for a brief period I thought it was going to work but then it got bad and the lies started again and I realized he was back there with her then we would fight and he would ask me to help him move out.  His mother sent them to counseling and then by June he told me to &#039;leave him alone&#039; and he disappeared and I did not respond to that last next.  So then it&#039;s August and he does the same thing again, starts commenting after me on FB.  Leaving song lyrics.  So we start talking.  I find out he got a DUI while he was giving me the silent treatment which he has hid from everyone but her because she had to pick him up at the jail.  And I stupidly agree to Friends with benefits because I&#039;m dumb.  But in that last year I saw him technically 2-3 times.  For a hour or so.  And I&#039;m realizing I was nothing but supply and a sexting outlet.  And he swears they aren&#039;t sleeping together, etc. etc. and I eat all those crumbs because I&#039;m hungry as we are get.  We eat those lies because to face the truth of what they are is too much.  And sometimes I would get the power to stop talking and he would pop back.  But the last time I saw his baby mama pinning baby stuff again on Pinterest and I asked him what the deal was is she pregnant and never got a straight answer. Like how is she pregnant is you aren&#039;t sleeping together?  And he stopped talking to me two weeks ago when I asked that.  Funny now that stuff is taken down.  But I stumbled across him posting on some other young girls page yesterday (I&#039;m now off FB for the duration, it&#039;s too much) really nasty sexual comments to her pictures there were quite revealing.  But he claims he never talks to anyone and only &#039;looks&#039; and if he had seen me doing that there would have been hell to explain.  It makes me sick and I know he was just a fake and as long as I played the game and ate the crumbs he was gonna keep bleeding me dry.  Is there any question this guy is a narcissistic?  He only usually went for young girls that are like 10-14 years younger than him.  He is 42.  His baby mama is 31.  I am 45.  And just a mess of scars and pain.  I even tracked down his old GF that he used to compare as his best relationship and she said he was shallow and she left him because he started needing attention from other females and she just could not trust him.  I am taking this day by day.  Like an addition. Tho there are still days I want to not wake up anymore ever again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zara: I am so glad I found your site.  It&#8217;s so hard to completely condense what I have been through since October 2013 but it has been a horrible ride and completely within the bounds of what you describe, yet I still question &#8220;is he an asshole or really a NP?&#8221; I was in a long marriage that was on it&#8217;s last legs when I met him through a friend of mine that was also married (they were having a little text thing going, I know stupid right? why would I want to mess with someone like that, why would I do that?) I think she is an NP as well and is no longer my friend, but needless to say he soon was onto her game and moved onto me.  And I ate it up hook line and sinker. Big good looking guy, smooth talker, in a band. After a year we finally slept together and at 42 I got pregnant by accident. The first time. Now I have forgotten to mention that he had a small child and was with a woman he said was just like his &#8216;room mate&#8217; &#8230;. yada yada.  I bought that too.  That I was the one he had been waiting for and I was his soul mate, he would die without me, and he was making plans to leave her and we would be together.  We even went places where his friends knew we were a thing.  Well, the roommate baby mama turns up pregnant with number two.  At the same time as me.  However, he talked me into an abortion (saying he didn&#8217;t put a gun to my head to do it but saying if I didn&#8217;t that we could never be together and that everyone would say I was a whore) &#8230; he said he would stay with her to see his son born, and get his name, and then leave after the holidays.  Well, I ended up divorced, losing my everything (my own fault) and starting over, and then he discarded me the day his son was born (right before the holidays) while he was in the hospital going so far as having the cops call me saying I was harassing him because I sent him a text. I didn&#8217;t threaten him with anything it was just the best way to try to control me because he knew I had pics, texts, etc.  All I could remember was laying on my bathroom floor bleeding that summer when I had the abortion and asking if he could just call me to make me feel better and he wouldn&#8217;t because &#8220;she was there.&#8221; I sort of lost my mind that someone could just throw me away and lie to me. I had never had someone treat me like that. I then blew him up to her, her family and his family.  Which did nothing other than make me look crazy.  She took him back and said to stay away from &#8216;her family&#8217; &#8230;  He told everyone I was crazy.  So 2 months later he pops back up on Facebook after disappearing and begins tap dancing all around showing his ass and commenting after me so I was sure to see him.  Then we begin it again, he comes back and this time he promises that he will really go.  He gets caught by her a few weeks into it (oh he also proposed to her at xmas day because &#8220;everyone hated him and he had to do something and he thought he might as well stay with her because he said I hated him, nice cop out there but I bought it).  So for a brief period I thought it was going to work but then it got bad and the lies started again and I realized he was back there with her then we would fight and he would ask me to help him move out.  His mother sent them to counseling and then by June he told me to &#8216;leave him alone&#8217; and he disappeared and I did not respond to that last next.  So then it&#8217;s August and he does the same thing again, starts commenting after me on FB.  Leaving song lyrics.  So we start talking.  I find out he got a DUI while he was giving me the silent treatment which he has hid from everyone but her because she had to pick him up at the jail.  And I stupidly agree to Friends with benefits because I&#8217;m dumb.  But in that last year I saw him technically 2-3 times.  For a hour or so.  And I&#8217;m realizing I was nothing but supply and a sexting outlet.  And he swears they aren&#8217;t sleeping together, etc. etc. and I eat all those crumbs because I&#8217;m hungry as we are get.  We eat those lies because to face the truth of what they are is too much.  And sometimes I would get the power to stop talking and he would pop back.  But the last time I saw his baby mama pinning baby stuff again on Pinterest and I asked him what the deal was is she pregnant and never got a straight answer. Like how is she pregnant is you aren&#8217;t sleeping together?  And he stopped talking to me two weeks ago when I asked that.  Funny now that stuff is taken down.  But I stumbled across him posting on some other young girls page yesterday (I&#8217;m now off FB for the duration, it&#8217;s too much) really nasty sexual comments to her pictures there were quite revealing.  But he claims he never talks to anyone and only &#8216;looks&#8217; and if he had seen me doing that there would have been hell to explain.  It makes me sick and I know he was just a fake and as long as I played the game and ate the crumbs he was gonna keep bleeding me dry.  Is there any question this guy is a narcissistic?  He only usually went for young girls that are like 10-14 years younger than him.  He is 42.  His baby mama is 31.  I am 45.  And just a mess of scars and pain.  I even tracked down his old GF that he used to compare as his best relationship and she said he was shallow and she left him because he started needing attention from other females and she just could not trust him.  I am taking this day by day.  Like an addition. Tho there are still days I want to not wake up anymore ever again.</p>
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		By: Esmer1974		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Zara, thanks for getting back to me so soon.  There is no Xmas mentioned in the court order.  I suggested alternatives, but my daughter was adamant that she wanted to stay with me and go to his on Boxing day, I said I would seek her views, and he told me that I shouldn&#039;t have asked her, basically the only answer he was after was her there on Xmas eve.  He was not happy in messages to me and told me I was manipulating her and shouldn&#039;t have asked her, but it was OK for him to ask her. The text he sent was inappropriate and unacceptable, I have blocked him on her iPod now, so the only way he can contact her is through me.  Court order states, week at Easter, summer and some long weekends. These have never happened.  He has had her for a period of 4 days at the most.  Alternate weekend, and every Wed.. its got 12 to 6pm but thats when she was in nursery.  so he has her over night from school finishing.  After all the fighting over the weekend and she never went to his (it was his weekend) she was crying in school on Fri and didn&#039;t want to go to his so I stopped her going.. I have not heard from him and he showed up at the school, even though he had said in the texts that he wouldn&#039;t see her for a while.  She told me in the morning if he turned up she didn&#039;t want to go to his.  He has cancelled numerous weekend, and wed at short notice and leaving me to make other arrangements. He drops her off at my parents in the morning sometimes 7am.. with no breakfast and not even her hair brushed.  I am now on medication for my asthma as this is stressing me out.  I just want to protect my daughter from his controlling narcissistic ways.  When I picked her up yesterday and he was there, when he approached the car, she visibly shrunk in the car and was desperate to get away... it made me so angry to see her like that.  Someone that is supposed to love her, makes her feel that way.  I think she is scared that he will twist all the conversations, and make her change her mind.  Now I think I have to get my lawyer involved again.  It was all very amicable until he got told NO for xmas.. and now he is this ogre again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zara, thanks for getting back to me so soon.  There is no Xmas mentioned in the court order.  I suggested alternatives, but my daughter was adamant that she wanted to stay with me and go to his on Boxing day, I said I would seek her views, and he told me that I shouldn&#8217;t have asked her, basically the only answer he was after was her there on Xmas eve.  He was not happy in messages to me and told me I was manipulating her and shouldn&#8217;t have asked her, but it was OK for him to ask her. The text he sent was inappropriate and unacceptable, I have blocked him on her iPod now, so the only way he can contact her is through me.  Court order states, week at Easter, summer and some long weekends. These have never happened.  He has had her for a period of 4 days at the most.  Alternate weekend, and every Wed.. its got 12 to 6pm but thats when she was in nursery.  so he has her over night from school finishing.  After all the fighting over the weekend and she never went to his (it was his weekend) she was crying in school on Fri and didn&#8217;t want to go to his so I stopped her going.. I have not heard from him and he showed up at the school, even though he had said in the texts that he wouldn&#8217;t see her for a while.  She told me in the morning if he turned up she didn&#8217;t want to go to his.  He has cancelled numerous weekend, and wed at short notice and leaving me to make other arrangements. He drops her off at my parents in the morning sometimes 7am.. with no breakfast and not even her hair brushed.  I am now on medication for my asthma as this is stressing me out.  I just want to protect my daughter from his controlling narcissistic ways.  When I picked her up yesterday and he was there, when he approached the car, she visibly shrunk in the car and was desperate to get away&#8230; it made me so angry to see her like that.  Someone that is supposed to love her, makes her feel that way.  I think she is scared that he will twist all the conversations, and make her change her mind.  Now I think I have to get my lawyer involved again.  It was all very amicable until he got told NO for xmas.. and now he is this ogre again.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7275&quot;&gt;Esmer1974&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Esmer1974,

Don&#039;t be sad, girl. You&#039;ve got to a grip on what he is doing right now and not let it get to you. As you know, this is really nothing new under the sun. He&#039;s going to react the way he&#039;s going to react - no matter what you say or do. Does it say in the visitation order that he gets her Xmas Eve? Does he pick her up and drop her off when he&#039;s supposed to? In other words, does he stick to HIS schedule? Why doesn&#039;t she want to go? Why is she scared of him? No matter what, he shouldn&#039;t be allowed to text her and say that...that you&#039;d broken the law. When you told him she didn&#039;t want to go, was he okay with it and THEN texted her saying he wasn&#039;t? Has your daughter told him that she doesn&#039;t want to go?  Sorry about all the questions...I&#039;m just trying to get the story in my mind so I can think of a way to help you deal with it. Write back if you can...

Zari:)]]></description>
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<p>Hi Esmer1974,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be sad, girl. You&#8217;ve got to a grip on what he is doing right now and not let it get to you. As you know, this is really nothing new under the sun. He&#8217;s going to react the way he&#8217;s going to react &#8211; no matter what you say or do. Does it say in the visitation order that he gets her Xmas Eve? Does he pick her up and drop her off when he&#8217;s supposed to? In other words, does he stick to HIS schedule? Why doesn&#8217;t she want to go? Why is she scared of him? No matter what, he shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to text her and say that&#8230;that you&#8217;d broken the law. When you told him she didn&#8217;t want to go, was he okay with it and THEN texted her saying he wasn&#8217;t? Has your daughter told him that she doesn&#8217;t want to go?  Sorry about all the questions&#8230;I&#8217;m just trying to get the story in my mind so I can think of a way to help you deal with it. Write back if you can&#8230;</p>
<p>Zari:)</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 23:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My ex is at it all again. My daughter is now nearly 9 and he is wanting her for Xmas eve and she doesn&#039;t want to go. So I told him. He has now txt her and said I&#039;ve broken the law and he is taking me to court.  And he probably won&#039;t see her until it&#039;s sorted. Then he showed up at school today to take her as If nothing had happened. He has started all his abuse over txt to me now.  I didn&#039;t allow him to take her as she didn&#039;t want to go. Her dad was scaring her.  I&#039;m so sad and angry that this is all kicking off again.  :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ex is at it all again. My daughter is now nearly 9 and he is wanting her for Xmas eve and she doesn&#8217;t want to go. So I told him. He has now txt her and said I&#8217;ve broken the law and he is taking me to court.  And he probably won&#8217;t see her until it&#8217;s sorted. Then he showed up at school today to take her as If nothing had happened. He has started all his abuse over txt to me now.  I didn&#8217;t allow him to take her as she didn&#8217;t want to go. Her dad was scaring her.  I&#8217;m so sad and angry that this is all kicking off again.  🙁</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 23:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, and I wish the same to you :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, and I wish the same to you 🙂</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 22:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7250&quot;&gt;Lu&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lu,

Thank you so much for such a sweet message...it made my day, girl:) In these types of relationships, I do believe that recovery is a team effort....without a doubt. Unless someone has lived this nightmare, they can never understand the level of the betrayal...and this is why we must all stick together as we move through recovery. I am inspired every day to continue the mission by you and everyone who comes here to share stories and comment on articles. You are all very special to me:)

And I agree...this is a time of spiritual warfare on this planet and we must choose on the side of goodness and love. There is power in knowledge and in numbers and - together - there is nothing that can stop us from moving forward. Thank you again, sister, and have a wonder holiday season...

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-4/#comment-7250">Lu</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lu,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for such a sweet message&#8230;it made my day, girl:) In these types of relationships, I do believe that recovery is a team effort&#8230;.without a doubt. Unless someone has lived this nightmare, they can never understand the level of the betrayal&#8230;and this is why we must all stick together as we move through recovery. I am inspired every day to continue the mission by you and everyone who comes here to share stories and comment on articles. You are all very special to me:)</p>
<p>And I agree&#8230;this is a time of spiritual warfare on this planet and we must choose on the side of goodness and love. There is power in knowledge and in numbers and &#8211; together &#8211; there is nothing that can stop us from moving forward. Thank you again, sister, and have a wonder holiday season&#8230;</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		By: Lu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2016 21:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you. I have no idea how you have the energy to write so much about this. I hope you have happiness and peace this holiday season, and beyond.   Can you let go of your own story while you are helping so many of us with your wisdom and lessons? You are a remarkable writer and mensch, Zari, thank you for everything. One thing I keep reading is that healing is something we do together. I truly believe we are going through a time where narcs are seeking dominance openly (politics!!) and where regular people with common sense, kindness and decency are creating a powerful counterweight (nodapl water protectors, veterans, forgivers, true gentle leaders). It&#039;s people like you who bring hope. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you. I have no idea how you have the energy to write so much about this. I hope you have happiness and peace this holiday season, and beyond.   Can you let go of your own story while you are helping so many of us with your wisdom and lessons? You are a remarkable writer and mensch, Zari, thank you for everything. One thing I keep reading is that healing is something we do together. I truly believe we are going through a time where narcs are seeking dominance openly (politics!!) and where regular people with common sense, kindness and decency are creating a powerful counterweight (nodapl water protectors, veterans, forgivers, true gentle leaders). It&#8217;s people like you who bring hope. Thank you.</p>
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		By: Luluka		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Zari,

I doubt that you will remember me, but this time last year, I had found your site (which lead me to discover narcissism) and shared my story with you under one of your posts. I explained how I met two narcissistic girls online, and how the second friendship managed to destroy me even through social media. We exchanged a few comments, and in one of them you told me that you believed I was &quot;a force to be reckoned with.&quot; Last December, that was the complete opposite of what I was–I was beyond a mess. This December, a full year later, that&#039;s exactly what I am–and more. It was a hard journey, but my life is happy and free as never before. I&#039;ve come by to drop a comment here because it&#039;s my birthday today and I simply wanted to let you know how grateful I am for not just your comments to me, but also for running this blog the way you do. You and your blog played a very big part in convincing and encouraging me (and many others) to take control of my life and to get rid of the narcissist that had been poisoning me last year. I don&#039;t want to write too much, so let me just say a massive thank you. You&#039;re a wonderful person and I hope you&#039;re doing well. Keep doing what you&#039;re doing, and thank you once again. 

Luluka xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zari,</p>
<p>I doubt that you will remember me, but this time last year, I had found your site (which lead me to discover narcissism) and shared my story with you under one of your posts. I explained how I met two narcissistic girls online, and how the second friendship managed to destroy me even through social media. We exchanged a few comments, and in one of them you told me that you believed I was &#8220;a force to be reckoned with.&#8221; Last December, that was the complete opposite of what I was–I was beyond a mess. This December, a full year later, that&#8217;s exactly what I am–and more. It was a hard journey, but my life is happy and free as never before. I&#8217;ve come by to drop a comment here because it&#8217;s my birthday today and I simply wanted to let you know how grateful I am for not just your comments to me, but also for running this blog the way you do. You and your blog played a very big part in convincing and encouraging me (and many others) to take control of my life and to get rid of the narcissist that had been poisoning me last year. I don&#8217;t want to write too much, so let me just say a massive thank you. You&#8217;re a wonderful person and I hope you&#8217;re doing well. Keep doing what you&#8217;re doing, and thank you once again. </p>
<p>Luluka xo</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zari Ballard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-3/#comment-7213&quot;&gt;Jennifer&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Jennifer,

Congrats to you for making the two years mark! Stay focused and strong and keep on right path. I&#039;m am grateful to be able to help you in any way that I can, sister:)

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/narcissist-and-christmas/comment-page-3/#comment-7213">Jennifer</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Jennifer,</p>
<p>Congrats to you for making the two years mark! Stay focused and strong and keep on right path. I&#8217;m am grateful to be able to help you in any way that I can, sister:)</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		By: Jennifer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2016 22:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zari, I&#039;ve read all your books and love reading your articles. I&#039;ve been without my narc and no contact almost 2 years now. Although it&#039;s still very hard, your writings always make me feel better and stronger. Thank you
Jennifer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zari, I&#8217;ve read all your books and love reading your articles. I&#8217;ve been without my narc and no contact almost 2 years now. Although it&#8217;s still very hard, your writings always make me feel better and stronger. Thank you<br />
Jennifer</p>
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