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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2019 08:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-11164&quot;&gt;seaserpentdesign&lt;/a&gt;.

seaserpentdesign...you got that right!!]]></description>
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<p>seaserpentdesign&#8230;you got that right!!</p>
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		By: seaserpentdesign		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2019 00:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading all this makes me so glad I don&#039;t formally date. Too much narcissistic trash out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading all this makes me so glad I don&#8217;t formally date. Too much narcissistic trash out there.</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 07:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9816&quot;&gt;Nicole&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Nicole,

So sorry it has taken me so long to respond, girl. You will find the answer to every one of your questions in my articles...I have covered every topic imaginable. Please go the category tab in the right sidebar and start reading. There is no easy answer but the information I provide PLUS the stories of all the people who come here to the comment section will give you amazing insight. 

Be careful about focusing on yourself too much...blaming yourself...and I have an article on that too. Blame is very non-productive because all it does is carry on the narc&#039;s legacy through your recovery. YOU were not the problem, HE was. It&#039;s all about changing your perspective of what he is and accepting how he&#039;ll never change. When things are broken and can&#039;t be fixed, even if we still feel attachment, it&#039;s best to simply throw them out or else they will continue to consume precious space. It is what it is...

Stays strong,

Zari]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9816">Nicole</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Nicole,</p>
<p>So sorry it has taken me so long to respond, girl. You will find the answer to every one of your questions in my articles&#8230;I have covered every topic imaginable. Please go the category tab in the right sidebar and start reading. There is no easy answer but the information I provide PLUS the stories of all the people who come here to the comment section will give you amazing insight. </p>
<p>Be careful about focusing on yourself too much&#8230;blaming yourself&#8230;and I have an article on that too. Blame is very non-productive because all it does is carry on the narc&#8217;s legacy through your recovery. YOU were not the problem, HE was. It&#8217;s all about changing your perspective of what he is and accepting how he&#8217;ll never change. When things are broken and can&#8217;t be fixed, even if we still feel attachment, it&#8217;s best to simply throw them out or else they will continue to consume precious space. It is what it is&#8230;</p>
<p>Stays strong,</p>
<p>Zari</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2017 01:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9817&quot;&gt;Louise&lt;/a&gt;.

Narcs don&#039;t get bored with their life. It just is what it is. The game, for them, just never gets old...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9817">Louise</a>.</p>
<p>Narcs don&#8217;t get bored with their life. It just is what it is. The game, for them, just never gets old&#8230;</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2017 04:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9729&quot;&gt;Whatsisface&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Whatsisface,

I appreciate the post so I won&#039;t &quot;recoil&quot;. LOL Thank you for sharing!

Zari:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-3/#comment-9729">Whatsisface</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Whatsisface,</p>
<p>I appreciate the post so I won&#8217;t &#8220;recoil&#8221;. LOL Thank you for sharing!</p>
<p>Zari:)</p>
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		By: Louise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2017 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[time is wasted by narcissists, the hoovering is creepy as if you just saw them last week &#038; nothing bad happened. My narc initially took me out to places I would enjoy as time passed we spent more and more time going to his local haunts. 
I grew so bored of the same routine, every weekend was a repeat of the one before. 
his new romance is identical, she is me being rolled out in his two local haunts. I&#039;m guessing his previous romances were the same too. 
I was sooo bored repeating the same weekend every weekend, same five &#039;friends&#039; doing the same things over &#038; over. 
I assume he has been repeating this for seven long years, how come he isn&#039;t bored I couldn&#039;t get inspired by any of it at all, his company was not enough let alone this role]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>time is wasted by narcissists, the hoovering is creepy as if you just saw them last week &amp; nothing bad happened. My narc initially took me out to places I would enjoy as time passed we spent more and more time going to his local haunts.<br />
I grew so bored of the same routine, every weekend was a repeat of the one before.<br />
his new romance is identical, she is me being rolled out in his two local haunts. I&#8217;m guessing his previous romances were the same too.<br />
I was sooo bored repeating the same weekend every weekend, same five &#8216;friends&#8217; doing the same things over &amp; over.<br />
I assume he has been repeating this for seven long years, how come he isn&#8217;t bored I couldn&#8217;t get inspired by any of it at all, his company was not enough let alone this role</p>
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		By: Nicole		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to say that I&#039;m very grateful to have come upon this site.  I&#039;ve been in a narcissistic relationship for 14 years.  My husband has been arrested and convicted 3 times for domestic abuse thought our relationship.  I prayed to god to give me the strength and courage to leave him and every time I did, I ended up taking him back.  I had no idea what hovering was until I read it on this website.  Reading through this site is like reading about my husband directly.  I know with all that I am that I don’t want that monster in my life, yet I anticipate his return and wish for it and I have no clue why this is inherent inside my very core.  I have lived a life of hell with this person and I’m determined to see this through and I am so happy that I found this site.  I have spent years studying this person and educating myself on the whys and now I am determined and focused on studying myself and I’ve turned to whys to myself.  Why do I anticipate him to come  back, why would I even want him back when I truly don’t, why do I feel anxiety if he’s not trying and why am I so broken.  These are now my questions and I am so looking for answers and help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say that I&#8217;m very grateful to have come upon this site.  I&#8217;ve been in a narcissistic relationship for 14 years.  My husband has been arrested and convicted 3 times for domestic abuse thought our relationship.  I prayed to god to give me the strength and courage to leave him and every time I did, I ended up taking him back.  I had no idea what hovering was until I read it on this website.  Reading through this site is like reading about my husband directly.  I know with all that I am that I don’t want that monster in my life, yet I anticipate his return and wish for it and I have no clue why this is inherent inside my very core.  I have lived a life of hell with this person and I’m determined to see this through and I am so happy that I found this site.  I have spent years studying this person and educating myself on the whys and now I am determined and focused on studying myself and I’ve turned to whys to myself.  Why do I anticipate him to come  back, why would I even want him back when I truly don’t, why do I feel anxiety if he’s not trying and why am I so broken.  These are now my questions and I am so looking for answers and help.</p>
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		By: Dannielle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 08:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi. Ive been no contact for two weeks and i blew it today. He has been hoovering sending flowers everyday , letters, i just want him to disapear. It is diing my head in. I know he has others, thats kept him away for two weeks. Im lonely im depressed i have no man. He has lots of women. Its unfair. How can he keep doing this to me. He has others why is he sending me flowers and lovely letters and poems and promises of marriage. Yes i know because he is a fucking narcissist. But this is driving me nuts. This is digging the sword in, yes i love him and miss him . How desperate am i ? No wonder i keep taking him back .... Help please :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Ive been no contact for two weeks and i blew it today. He has been hoovering sending flowers everyday , letters, i just want him to disapear. It is diing my head in. I know he has others, thats kept him away for two weeks. Im lonely im depressed i have no man. He has lots of women. Its unfair. How can he keep doing this to me. He has others why is he sending me flowers and lovely letters and poems and promises of marriage. Yes i know because he is a fucking narcissist. But this is driving me nuts. This is digging the sword in, yes i love him and miss him . How desperate am i ? No wonder i keep taking him back &#8230;. Help please 🙁</p>
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		By: Whatsisface		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 03:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I rather like my narcissist ex-girlfriend. She&#039;s clever, resourceful, works like a demon, nice to look at, detail oriented, and smart enough to not look too self-centered in polite company. Once we got past the &quot;you&#039;re not THAT much smarter than I am&quot; and I forgave her because - dude, her parents did it to her...it&#039;s not her fault. Eh, she can come and go as she pleases, within certain rules. As a result, since they hate rules, she mostly goes, except for popping by for a quick bite on my neck here and there. She gets only weapons-grade positivism, or &quot;grey stone&quot; at efforts for negative fuel. Hoover, don&#039;t hoover, what do I care? You have to get over that *longing* for the past. It&#039;s over; focus on the future. For both of you. They can&#039;t mature past needing constant praise and attention; you can, hopefully.

Now that I know how she works, what she eats? &#039;Little bit like keeping a pet cobra. They hesitate to bite you with the knowledge that you feed them, and that hesitation is just enough to snatch your hand back as long as you&#039;re vigilant. One of the horrifying eye-openers in all this is like attracts like. We have the same sort of upbringing and often some of the same personality traits. It&#039;s just a question of degrees and certain personal limits. I&#039;m probably a little bit narco myself (don&#039;t give me that recoil, I&#039;m working on it...) I don&#039;t trade in fear or guilt, but I am huge on obligation; if I do you a favor, I want it reciprocated some day. If you do me one, it will be, I&#039;ll see to it. ...We&#039;ve all got some critical wound or secret our parents gave us that&#039;s like a hole in your heart a narc will promise to fill and then widen while they try to fix their own. Start digging.

I know this seems cavalier, but take heart that you can get to the point of resigned amusement about it all. If  you can&#039;t hack what they&#039;re doing to you, you have to work on yourself, not focus on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather like my narcissist ex-girlfriend. She&#8217;s clever, resourceful, works like a demon, nice to look at, detail oriented, and smart enough to not look too self-centered in polite company. Once we got past the &#8220;you&#8217;re not THAT much smarter than I am&#8221; and I forgave her because &#8211; dude, her parents did it to her&#8230;it&#8217;s not her fault. Eh, she can come and go as she pleases, within certain rules. As a result, since they hate rules, she mostly goes, except for popping by for a quick bite on my neck here and there. She gets only weapons-grade positivism, or &#8220;grey stone&#8221; at efforts for negative fuel. Hoover, don&#8217;t hoover, what do I care? You have to get over that *longing* for the past. It&#8217;s over; focus on the future. For both of you. They can&#8217;t mature past needing constant praise and attention; you can, hopefully.</p>
<p>Now that I know how she works, what she eats? &#8216;Little bit like keeping a pet cobra. They hesitate to bite you with the knowledge that you feed them, and that hesitation is just enough to snatch your hand back as long as you&#8217;re vigilant. One of the horrifying eye-openers in all this is like attracts like. We have the same sort of upbringing and often some of the same personality traits. It&#8217;s just a question of degrees and certain personal limits. I&#8217;m probably a little bit narco myself (don&#8217;t give me that recoil, I&#8217;m working on it&#8230;) I don&#8217;t trade in fear or guilt, but I am huge on obligation; if I do you a favor, I want it reciprocated some day. If you do me one, it will be, I&#8217;ll see to it. &#8230;We&#8217;ve all got some critical wound or secret our parents gave us that&#8217;s like a hole in your heart a narc will promise to fill and then widen while they try to fix their own. Start digging.</p>
<p>I know this seems cavalier, but take heart that you can get to the point of resigned amusement about it all. If  you can&#8217;t hack what they&#8217;re doing to you, you have to work on yourself, not focus on them.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2017 09:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He does drive bys at my work. Every couple of months. He gets bold enough to pause right at my window before driving off. 
Sometimes he runs by. 
He never contacts me. He&#039;ll look for me like to see if he&#039;s seen, but I stay gray rock. Zero response. No acknowledgment. 
It&#039;s been 10 months. Will this ever end? Can I make it stop?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He does drive bys at my work. Every couple of months. He gets bold enough to pause right at my window before driving off.<br />
Sometimes he runs by.<br />
He never contacts me. He&#8217;ll look for me like to see if he&#8217;s seen, but I stay gray rock. Zero response. No acknowledgment.<br />
It&#8217;s been 10 months. Will this ever end? Can I make it stop?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7917&quot;&gt;Sonja&lt;/a&gt;.

Dearest Sonja,

I am so terribly sorry for your situation and I can only imagine the pain. As you know, your sister is behaving VERY badly - almost to the point of it being UNFORGIVABLE. From a narc, we expect this type of horrendous, hurtful behavior but not from our own sister! He is doing this on purpose and she is playing right into it. This being said, what she is doing is WORSE in my eyes and there is something dark under her actions. As hard as this is, she need NOT be in your life right now as you continue with your recovery. YOU ARE A SURVIVOR at six years in, sister, and these two people do not have a single thing to do with it. You are RIGHT to be separated from this man and he &lt;em&gt;deserves&lt;/em&gt; an even further punishment. After 37 years of hell, I hope that you are getting financial support from him and if not, DIVORCE HIM so that you be sure to get it. Do not allow him to cause you further stress. He is hanging out with your sister to hurt you to the bone and it is UNACCEPTABLE. He will never ever change - never.

As for your sister, she is committing the ultimate betrayal. And I don&#039;t care if she&#039;s sleeping with him or not. She shouldn&#039;t be speaking with him - let alone seeing him out - AT ALL. I have a feeling that she has always &quot;liked&quot; him and he has always known this so as soon as you were separated - and maybe even before - he jumped on it because what better way to hurt you? Again, from him, I would expect this but from her? HELL NO!! I know she is your only remaining family member but she is not really &quot;family&quot; at this point because true family would NEVER do this.

Focus on YOU, sister. This is about YOUR life. I say cut them both off completely and focus on you and you alone. If you can still be here fighting after six years of cancer, YOU CAN SURVIVE THIS glitch in the family matrix. Do you understand this? You are an amazing person and to hell with both of them!

Love to you, my sister.....please write anytime....

Zari xo]]></description>
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<p>Dearest Sonja,</p>
<p>I am so terribly sorry for your situation and I can only imagine the pain. As you know, your sister is behaving VERY badly &#8211; almost to the point of it being UNFORGIVABLE. From a narc, we expect this type of horrendous, hurtful behavior but not from our own sister! He is doing this on purpose and she is playing right into it. This being said, what she is doing is WORSE in my eyes and there is something dark under her actions. As hard as this is, she need NOT be in your life right now as you continue with your recovery. YOU ARE A SURVIVOR at six years in, sister, and these two people do not have a single thing to do with it. You are RIGHT to be separated from this man and he <em>deserves</em> an even further punishment. After 37 years of hell, I hope that you are getting financial support from him and if not, DIVORCE HIM so that you be sure to get it. Do not allow him to cause you further stress. He is hanging out with your sister to hurt you to the bone and it is UNACCEPTABLE. He will never ever change &#8211; never.</p>
<p>As for your sister, she is committing the ultimate betrayal. And I don&#8217;t care if she&#8217;s sleeping with him or not. She shouldn&#8217;t be speaking with him &#8211; let alone seeing him out &#8211; AT ALL. I have a feeling that she has always &#8220;liked&#8221; him and he has always known this so as soon as you were separated &#8211; and maybe even before &#8211; he jumped on it because what better way to hurt you? Again, from him, I would expect this but from her? HELL NO!! I know she is your only remaining family member but she is not really &#8220;family&#8221; at this point because true family would NEVER do this.</p>
<p>Focus on YOU, sister. This is about YOUR life. I say cut them both off completely and focus on you and you alone. If you can still be here fighting after six years of cancer, YOU CAN SURVIVE THIS glitch in the family matrix. Do you understand this? You are an amazing person and to hell with both of them!</p>
<p>Love to you, my sister&#8230;..please write anytime&#8230;.</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are separated now for 6 months after a 37 yr marriage .  I have had cancer for 6 years. At least the last two years of silent treatment. The sicker I got the more he retreated.  He cheated on me during chemo and I suspected but held my tongue until I was well.  Things got much worse when I accused him and was actually relieved when he finally left me. Still suffering sporadically. BUT my problem is this. He now calls my sister regularly out for dinner (for company - or to spy on me) regardless. My sister now is sympathetic to him and keeps telling me everything I did wrong instead of siding with me so I get no support from her. I&#039;ve told her to stop telling me when she sees him as she won&#039;t listen to the narcissism theory. She sees him as generous and stressed by a sick wife. She is charmed by him. And never listened to my complaints during my marriage. She actually says well u wanted this. I feel a double whammy. Lost my husband and misunderstood by my last remaining family member. How can I ever get her to understand my pain? And of course it&#039;s still so new I&#039;m looking for the magic that was once there. Still very confused. But firm that he is a N.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are separated now for 6 months after a 37 yr marriage .  I have had cancer for 6 years. At least the last two years of silent treatment. The sicker I got the more he retreated.  He cheated on me during chemo and I suspected but held my tongue until I was well.  Things got much worse when I accused him and was actually relieved when he finally left me. Still suffering sporadically. BUT my problem is this. He now calls my sister regularly out for dinner (for company &#8211; or to spy on me) regardless. My sister now is sympathetic to him and keeps telling me everything I did wrong instead of siding with me so I get no support from her. I&#8217;ve told her to stop telling me when she sees him as she won&#8217;t listen to the narcissism theory. She sees him as generous and stressed by a sick wife. She is charmed by him. And never listened to my complaints during my marriage. She actually says well u wanted this. I feel a double whammy. Lost my husband and misunderstood by my last remaining family member. How can I ever get her to understand my pain? And of course it&#8217;s still so new I&#8217;m looking for the magic that was once there. Still very confused. But firm that he is a N.</p>
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		By: Zari Ballard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2017 06:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7791&quot;&gt;MaryEllen&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mary Ellen,

Thank you for writing and I&#039;m grateful you found your way to my website. Don&#039;t blame yourself for anything (it&#039;s not allowed here - LOL!). All you did was fall in love and want to believe in the person you were in love with. The narcissist takes advantage of that and this is how we end up in the rabbit hole.

It truly is a live and learn situation, sister, and this is all that we can do in life. Now that you know exactly what you want and what you expect, go for it with gusto. I wish you all the happiness in the world....

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7791">MaryEllen</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mary Ellen,</p>
<p>Thank you for writing and I&#8217;m grateful you found your way to my website. Don&#8217;t blame yourself for anything (it&#8217;s not allowed here &#8211; LOL!). All you did was fall in love and want to believe in the person you were in love with. The narcissist takes advantage of that and this is how we end up in the rabbit hole.</p>
<p>It truly is a live and learn situation, sister, and this is all that we can do in life. Now that you know exactly what you want and what you expect, go for it with gusto. I wish you all the happiness in the world&#8230;.</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was just discarded the second time within a year of our relationship.  For reasons that are just not worth breaking up if you really care about the relationship.   He even said I still want to be your friend the day he broke up with the second time.   I do not know how to tell his daughter  we can not continue being  business partners because this 
would still link me to her father.  I know they are both very close and get 
along very well.  She lives with him and practically the only person she 
speaks to , other than her sister who is very different from her.  I am 
afraid this is one way of him having control over me, of what I do, knowing 
how I am doing etc.   I am afraid that once I tell her , she and father can 
buy the domain name, or do something against me.   I want to start this on 
my own now, and I have another person, a professional that is willing to 
help me with the website.    I want to tell her that I will pay for her 
finishing the website, but then we must each move on and go our separate 
ways.  Not because of her, but of her father.   Am I wrong in doing so ? 
Can I still maintain this young women as my friend , in a work related 
business?  I need your advise.

He is not contacted me thank God, it´s been a month already.  and I do not honestly think he will.   I 
think he already has another source of supply.  A visit from his  deceased wife´s 
friend that is Malaysian and is divorced contacted him about 6 months ago to 
tell him she is going to visit him in March.  She is older than I am, 70, 
but to a Narcissist age nor beauty matter, just what they can get from their 
victim.  So I know he is done with me, like me with him.  At times I even 
feel hate for him .  Then other times I feel sorry for who he really is.  I 
feel so mad at myself for not seeing this sooner, but I sure did learn a 
lot.  Now I know what I truly want and expect in a healthy loving 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just discarded the second time within a year of our relationship.  For reasons that are just not worth breaking up if you really care about the relationship.   He even said I still want to be your friend the day he broke up with the second time.   I do not know how to tell his daughter  we can not continue being  business partners because this<br />
would still link me to her father.  I know they are both very close and get<br />
along very well.  She lives with him and practically the only person she<br />
speaks to , other than her sister who is very different from her.  I am<br />
afraid this is one way of him having control over me, of what I do, knowing<br />
how I am doing etc.   I am afraid that once I tell her , she and father can<br />
buy the domain name, or do something against me.   I want to start this on<br />
my own now, and I have another person, a professional that is willing to<br />
help me with the website.    I want to tell her that I will pay for her<br />
finishing the website, but then we must each move on and go our separate<br />
ways.  Not because of her, but of her father.   Am I wrong in doing so ?<br />
Can I still maintain this young women as my friend , in a work related<br />
business?  I need your advise.</p>
<p>He is not contacted me thank God, it´s been a month already.  and I do not honestly think he will.   I<br />
think he already has another source of supply.  A visit from his  deceased wife´s<br />
friend that is Malaysian and is divorced contacted him about 6 months ago to<br />
tell him she is going to visit him in March.  She is older than I am, 70,<br />
but to a Narcissist age nor beauty matter, just what they can get from their<br />
victim.  So I know he is done with me, like me with him.  At times I even<br />
feel hate for him .  Then other times I feel sorry for who he really is.  I<br />
feel so mad at myself for not seeing this sooner, but I sure did learn a<br />
lot.  Now I know what I truly want and expect in a healthy loving<br />
relationship</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7593&quot;&gt;Lynsey Tomlinson&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lynsey,

Yes, the silent treatment is a killer. If you can, read my book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D17093M/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When Love Is a Lie&lt;/a&gt; because my story is all about that - the deafening silence and how I dealt with it. The silent treatment was my narc&#039;s favorite thing to do - and the blocking. he controlled all of the communication. It nearly made me insane. There are articles on the silent treatment all over this website so please read them. You will survive it but you have to remain strong. No one should be allowed to treat us like that...like a piece of shit on their shoe. He certainly may return but I guarantee he will do it again and again, staying away just a little bit longer than the time before each time. My book explains all of it and how I mentally broke free from the madness.

Stay strong and turn every day into Silence Appreciation Day!

Zari xo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7593">Lynsey Tomlinson</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lynsey,</p>
<p>Yes, the silent treatment is a killer. If you can, read my book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D17093M/" rel="nofollow">When Love Is a Lie</a> because my story is all about that &#8211; the deafening silence and how I dealt with it. The silent treatment was my narc&#8217;s favorite thing to do &#8211; and the blocking. he controlled all of the communication. It nearly made me insane. There are articles on the silent treatment all over this website so please read them. You will survive it but you have to remain strong. No one should be allowed to treat us like that&#8230;like a piece of shit on their shoe. He certainly may return but I guarantee he will do it again and again, staying away just a little bit longer than the time before each time. My book explains all of it and how I mentally broke free from the madness.</p>
<p>Stay strong and turn every day into Silence Appreciation Day!</p>
<p>Zari xo</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since the discard ,after a disagreement were i tried asserting myself he left me at his house alone, went out and text me telling me its over and never to contact him again and immeadiately blocked me from any way trying to contact him .knowing he would of gone for a couple of days i went home .That was two weeks today and ive still heard nothing . Going from everyday talking to him constantly messaging each other when were not together for two and half years to this deadly silence which sometimes makes me feel like im going to human combust at any second is somthing im finding harder and harder each day .I keep having urges im trying to supress of writing to him of how hes making me feel , would this make me feel better that ive stuck up for myself a little , im not sure .Im wishing the days to go by as tommorrow might bring on the hoover or am i gonna go a life time now of feeling like a ghost .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the discard ,after a disagreement were i tried asserting myself he left me at his house alone, went out and text me telling me its over and never to contact him again and immeadiately blocked me from any way trying to contact him .knowing he would of gone for a couple of days i went home .That was two weeks today and ive still heard nothing . Going from everyday talking to him constantly messaging each other when were not together for two and half years to this deadly silence which sometimes makes me feel like im going to human combust at any second is somthing im finding harder and harder each day .I keep having urges im trying to supress of writing to him of how hes making me feel , would this make me feel better that ive stuck up for myself a little , im not sure .Im wishing the days to go by as tommorrow might bring on the hoover or am i gonna go a life time now of feeling like a ghost .</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 01:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your reply Zari!  He will most definitely stayed blocked on my social media (I only do facebook).  I hadn&#039;t thought about calling my carrier to see if I could have his number blocked!  As I said, he is blocked on my phone, but I&#039;m thinking he knows that iphones keep blocked messages so he assumes I&#039;m listening.  I didn&#039;t even know my phone kept them myself until I stumbled upon it and there was a pile of them there!  Thank you for the suggestion!

Yes, I am well aware that he would die without tons of female attention, so he&#039;s not pining away for me for the past year.  Thank goodness his many schemes, tactics and lies no longer work on me and I no longer even for a second wonder if he has &quot;really changed&quot;.  After a long road, it&#039;s a good place to be!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply Zari!  He will most definitely stayed blocked on my social media (I only do facebook).  I hadn&#8217;t thought about calling my carrier to see if I could have his number blocked!  As I said, he is blocked on my phone, but I&#8217;m thinking he knows that iphones keep blocked messages so he assumes I&#8217;m listening.  I didn&#8217;t even know my phone kept them myself until I stumbled upon it and there was a pile of them there!  Thank you for the suggestion!</p>
<p>Yes, I am well aware that he would die without tons of female attention, so he&#8217;s not pining away for me for the past year.  Thank goodness his many schemes, tactics and lies no longer work on me and I no longer even for a second wonder if he has &#8220;really changed&#8221;.  After a long road, it&#8217;s a good place to be!!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2017 18:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-1/#comment-7530&quot;&gt;Lisa&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lisa,

No, it will likely never end because he knows you are paying attention. It doesn&#039;t even matter if you answer or respond as long as &lt;em&gt;he knows you are listening&lt;/em&gt; and, therefore, &lt;em&gt;he is in your head.&lt;/em&gt; You don&#039;t have to get a NC order, girl...you just need &lt;em&gt;to block him once and for all.&lt;/em&gt; You need to call your carrier and have his number blocked permanently so that he can&#039;t leave messages AND keep him blocked on social media so that it is OVER. The fact that he can leave a message tells him that you are still on the hook and listening. He knows that you haven&#039;t taken that final step and made it so he can&#039;t call at all. Why do you need &quot;to keep tabs&quot; on his state of mind? I bet you didn&#039;t know he drove by three times/week until he told you and I&#039;ll you this: I bet he DOESN&#039;T drive by like that at all (he just wants you to think he does).

The phone message situation is what is keeping him going. And I&#039;m sure that you know that he isn&#039;t pining for you at all...he is going about his narcissistic business as normal. When he calls and can&#039;t leave you a message, he will likely fade out because to REALLY get in touch with you then will be too much of an effort. Until then, he is controlling you and keeping you from moving forward...you might not think so but he is and he knows it. I&#039;m not sure what you mean when you say you want to &quot;stay the course&quot; a bit longer. &lt;em&gt;It&#039;s already been a year too long as it is.&lt;/em&gt;

Zari:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-1/#comment-7530">Lisa</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>No, it will likely never end because he knows you are paying attention. It doesn&#8217;t even matter if you answer or respond as long as <em>he knows you are listening</em> and, therefore, <em>he is in your head.</em> You don&#8217;t have to get a NC order, girl&#8230;you just need <em>to block him once and for all.</em> You need to call your carrier and have his number blocked permanently so that he can&#8217;t leave messages AND keep him blocked on social media so that it is OVER. The fact that he can leave a message tells him that you are still on the hook and listening. He knows that you haven&#8217;t taken that final step and made it so he can&#8217;t call at all. Why do you need &#8220;to keep tabs&#8221; on his state of mind? I bet you didn&#8217;t know he drove by three times/week until he told you and I&#8217;ll you this: I bet he DOESN&#8217;T drive by like that at all (he just wants you to think he does).</p>
<p>The phone message situation is what is keeping him going. And I&#8217;m sure that you know that he isn&#8217;t pining for you at all&#8230;he is going about his narcissistic business as normal. When he calls and can&#8217;t leave you a message, he will likely fade out because to REALLY get in touch with you then will be too much of an effort. Until then, he is controlling you and keeping you from moving forward&#8230;you might not think so but he is and he knows it. I&#8217;m not sure what you mean when you say you want to &#8220;stay the course&#8221; a bit longer. <em>It&#8217;s already been a year too long as it is.</em></p>
<p>Zari:)</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2017 02:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-1/#comment-5752&quot;&gt;Lisa&lt;/a&gt;.

I had an email notification that there were new posts here, so thought I&#039;d stop back.  I&#039;ve been NC from my ex narc for just over a year now.  I haven&#039;t responded to a single hoover.....and they have been CONSTANT still.  He is blocked on my phone and Facebook page, but my phone keeps voice mails in a &quot;blocked&quot; folder, so I do listen to them just to keep tabs on his frame of mind.  After a year of nothing from me, he still leaves 3 minute messages (the max time allowed) all the time.  He starts each one with &quot;I don&#039;t know if you will ever hear this but...&quot;  Sometimes I won&#039;t hear from him for a couple weeks, but then he&#039;s back.  He will do stretches of leaving messages every day, then they will be less frequent, but they have never stopped.  He tells me that he drives by my house a few times a week.  On New Years Day, I got another &quot;final farewell&quot; voice mail (except that he said he still intends to write me a letter and will request that I acknowledge receiving it), but I have gotten at least 10 final farewells over the course of 3 years so I&#039;m not getting my hopes up.

Does this EVER EVER end??  How is he still getting supply from me when I haven&#039;t even acknowledged hearing his messages?  He prides himself on &quot;staying friends&quot; with everyone he has dated (keep them handy for supply as I now understand), so maybe he can&#039;t allow himself to lose at his game of controlling me?  I just didn&#039;t expect this level of staying power after I went totally NC.

I really don&#039;t want to get a no contact order, because that means facing him at a hearing, etc. and possibly escalating him.  He&#039;s not threatening to hurt me, it&#039;s all love crap talk, but I do consider him a stalker.  I&#039;m trying to just stay the course a bit longer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-1/#comment-5752">Lisa</a>.</p>
<p>I had an email notification that there were new posts here, so thought I&#8217;d stop back.  I&#8217;ve been NC from my ex narc for just over a year now.  I haven&#8217;t responded to a single hoover&#8230;..and they have been CONSTANT still.  He is blocked on my phone and Facebook page, but my phone keeps voice mails in a &#8220;blocked&#8221; folder, so I do listen to them just to keep tabs on his frame of mind.  After a year of nothing from me, he still leaves 3 minute messages (the max time allowed) all the time.  He starts each one with &#8220;I don&#8217;t know if you will ever hear this but&#8230;&#8221;  Sometimes I won&#8217;t hear from him for a couple weeks, but then he&#8217;s back.  He will do stretches of leaving messages every day, then they will be less frequent, but they have never stopped.  He tells me that he drives by my house a few times a week.  On New Years Day, I got another &#8220;final farewell&#8221; voice mail (except that he said he still intends to write me a letter and will request that I acknowledge receiving it), but I have gotten at least 10 final farewells over the course of 3 years so I&#8217;m not getting my hopes up.</p>
<p>Does this EVER EVER end??  How is he still getting supply from me when I haven&#8217;t even acknowledged hearing his messages?  He prides himself on &#8220;staying friends&#8221; with everyone he has dated (keep them handy for supply as I now understand), so maybe he can&#8217;t allow himself to lose at his game of controlling me?  I just didn&#8217;t expect this level of staying power after I went totally NC.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to get a no contact order, because that means facing him at a hearing, etc. and possibly escalating him.  He&#8217;s not threatening to hurt me, it&#8217;s all love crap talk, but I do consider him a stalker.  I&#8217;m trying to just stay the course a bit longer.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG, I was reading your &quot;tap nd run&quot; comment and did not understand until it happened to me.  I gave been no contact since September 2016.  I got a Merry Christmas text and Happy New Year text.  On New Years night about 8:30 pm.  I was in the bathroom when I heard this tap on my living room window.  What is so funny he bypassed by bedroom window (light was on) and walked to my living room which (no lights)  tapped several times and that was it.  WTF ------- This crap is beginning to be funny.  I want nothing to do with him and I made it perfectly clear that I was no longer a part of his &quot;haram&quot; and I am done ----- so done you can put a fork in it.  smh   Thought I was in the clear til now, but he gets no reply from me.   Like the  bible say, &quot;ignore the devil and he will flee from you.&quot;     I know what he is trying to do but it ain&#039;t working this time.     Can&#039;t stand the fact that he insults my intelligence to not know that he is with someone else.  I see him a an attention whore, they all are.  The cause of no contact was that I called him on what I knew it was doing and like a little bitch, he disappeared.  He knows I am on to him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, I was reading your &#8220;tap nd run&#8221; comment and did not understand until it happened to me.  I gave been no contact since September 2016.  I got a Merry Christmas text and Happy New Year text.  On New Years night about 8:30 pm.  I was in the bathroom when I heard this tap on my living room window.  What is so funny he bypassed by bedroom window (light was on) and walked to my living room which (no lights)  tapped several times and that was it.  WTF &#8212;&#8212;- This crap is beginning to be funny.  I want nothing to do with him and I made it perfectly clear that I was no longer a part of his &#8220;haram&#8221; and I am done &#8212;&#8211; so done you can put a fork in it.  smh   Thought I was in the clear til now, but he gets no reply from me.   Like the  bible say, &#8220;ignore the devil and he will flee from you.&#8221;     I know what he is trying to do but it ain&#8217;t working this time.     Can&#8217;t stand the fact that he insults my intelligence to not know that he is with someone else.  I see him a an attention whore, they all are.  The cause of no contact was that I called him on what I knew it was doing and like a little bitch, he disappeared.  He knows I am on to him.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2017 13:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7485&quot;&gt;Genoveve Deary&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Genoveve,

I am pretty speechless at your story. Yes, he is a narcissist and also a sociopath and also a psychopath. I believe that he could kill you, I really do. I understand that you are traumatized but there are children involved here. This man wanted you to have sex in front of the children...you found him spooning your daughter...Good God. This &quot;bad&quot; that he is is as good as its ever going to get! How on earth can he be punching you in the throat, dissing you during childbirth, cheating on you, holding you hostage, yet he is turning people against you? Your own family? Are you sticking up for yourself I hope?

I believe that you hate this man but I do not believe that he will go to the UK. You have to make your own freedom, girl. You must disappear, block him, change your number, GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA...if you can&#039;t do it for yourself, please do it for your daughters. Do you really think that he HASN&#039;T molested them? I doubt very much they would even admit that it has happened given that he threatens...you must assume that it has. Look, I understand everything about staying with narcs and sociopaths that treat us like shit. I understand the addiction. But when these monsters become child molesters (real or perceived, it doesn&#039;t matter!) and allude to sexual activity with your children and eventually their own, it all comes to an end. It has to.

Let this girl have him. Who cares? I hope and pray that he never comes back...you and your daughter will be just fine without him. But I would hide where he couldn&#039;t find me. His jealousy all that time was just a projection of his cheating that entire time. Narcs, sociopaths, and psychopaths will bombard you with so many accusations of cheating just to distract you from the fact that they are cheating the whole time.

The nightmare will not end unless you end it. Let him have his new girlfriend...let her take his punishments and abuse. I don&#039;t even know what to say. Please find some help before something very bad happens. God Bless you, my sister.

Zari xoxoxo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.thenarcissisticpersonality.com/hoovering-is-timeless/comment-page-2/#comment-7485">Genoveve Deary</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Genoveve,</p>
<p>I am pretty speechless at your story. Yes, he is a narcissist and also a sociopath and also a psychopath. I believe that he could kill you, I really do. I understand that you are traumatized but there are children involved here. This man wanted you to have sex in front of the children&#8230;you found him spooning your daughter&#8230;Good God. This &#8220;bad&#8221; that he is is as good as its ever going to get! How on earth can he be punching you in the throat, dissing you during childbirth, cheating on you, holding you hostage, yet he is turning people against you? Your own family? Are you sticking up for yourself I hope?</p>
<p>I believe that you hate this man but I do not believe that he will go to the UK. You have to make your own freedom, girl. You must disappear, block him, change your number, GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA&#8230;if you can&#8217;t do it for yourself, please do it for your daughters. Do you really think that he HASN&#8217;T molested them? I doubt very much they would even admit that it has happened given that he threatens&#8230;you must assume that it has. Look, I understand everything about staying with narcs and sociopaths that treat us like shit. I understand the addiction. But when these monsters become child molesters (real or perceived, it doesn&#8217;t matter!) and allude to sexual activity with your children and eventually their own, it all comes to an end. It has to.</p>
<p>Let this girl have him. Who cares? I hope and pray that he never comes back&#8230;you and your daughter will be just fine without him. But I would hide where he couldn&#8217;t find me. His jealousy all that time was just a projection of his cheating that entire time. Narcs, sociopaths, and psychopaths will bombard you with so many accusations of cheating just to distract you from the fact that they are cheating the whole time.</p>
<p>The nightmare will not end unless you end it. Let him have his new girlfriend&#8230;let her take his punishments and abuse. I don&#8217;t even know what to say. Please find some help before something very bad happens. God Bless you, my sister.</p>
<p>Zari xoxoxo</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was with a narcissist my second narcissist boyfriend for a year now this one was far more  malignant then the first one he was the type that would throw you to the wolves and enjoy watch you get eaten.he was sadistic in his nature evil and down right heartless.in the beginning he was so amazing  he told me he loved me on the first day the sex was amazing he could go for hours trying to go out his way to please me and showered with me attention and told me how beautiful I was and how happy he was that I wanted to be his girlfriend he wanted to get a place together immediately spoke fondly of marriage and how badly he wanted a family I was still recovering from my previousl relationship with a narc so I thought I was saved by this man but as the relationship began to progress he became extremely possessive and controlling he would go through my cell phone in front of me and swear at my friends I had on my phone including my family members he Turned my own sister against me I think she had given up on me when she told me so many times what a heartless narcissist he was and Still I was with this monster but it was already to late I was already in to deep when I would not answer his calls he would stalk my place threat end to break my things especially my phone he would smack it against his steering wheel or run his key along the screen telling me how much he wanted to break it because he was convinced I was sleeping around he found out I went out once and came to my flat and smashed one of the tentants cars aswell as stole her possessions out her car all because he was convinced I was seeing someone he left messages on my phone calling me names like whore bitch c%@and telling me how no man would want me as I have three kids and  reminded me that he has lots of young sexy women after him  i presume the other girls he slept with and that he can pick and choose and that I am a piece of shit to him that could easily be replaced and that he would kill me and the man I am with and make me suffer and enjoy watching me suffer he said this to me on a daily basis I became a nervous wreck he physically assaulted me and treated me like a sex slave he would want it whenever he felt like it irrespective of how I felt when I was on my period he demanded it and then said how disgusting piece of sh%@ I was for making him dirty the next day he was apparently done with me and blocked me and just like that I was gone two days later he suddenly unblocked me and began rubbing it it on my face at how amazing his new girlfriend was and how I worthless I was after all that I still took him back and he became more controlling and possessive over me he said he would keep me prisoner in his place so he could watch me like a hawk two days he locked me in his place while he went to work depriving me from seeing my kids I broke out and he came to my place and began smashing my personal belongings it was that very day he punched me in the throat and threw me into the ground and caused trouble with my family trying to turn them against me he turned all my friends and family against me aswell as good decent men that may have been interested in me he reminded me on a daily basis that no man would put up with what he puts up with I got to a point where I wanted out I was so miserable being with him that I disappeared for a month already finding out I was three months pregnant with his child he went into a narcissistic rampage and began stalking my Facebook bombarding me with messages contacting all my family members about my whereabouts and that he had every right to know where I was as I had his baby inside me this was after he had smashed my phone in my place in front of my dying father all while blaming me everything was my fault his messages to my family soon turned into being in tears and how madly in love he was with me and that he is dying without me in his life and begged my family how he would change and be a good man well I stupidly caved and contacted him I went to his place and he soon proposed to me and everything was back on track again well so i thought until he became more abusive to me he would go from saying he loved me to how he would kill me and the unborn child inside me he demanded my attention 24 7 and expected it on demand all while treating me like a piece of dirt I would spend weekends at his place with my daughters and he became spending a great deal of time with my oldest daughter who is 7 I would catch him spooning her in bed and he pushed for sex in front of my kids as I got heavier in the pregnancy he became more and more heartless and abusive and I suspected him of cheating he would show me pictures of very young attractive girls he was talking to behind my back and how he would marry them and take our child away and have them mother my child he threatened me on a daily basis how he would put my kids in Foster care all because I would not do as he said he said you need to listen to me and do as you told otherwise this will not work when I went into labour two months earlier then expected all due to the stress he inflicted on me caused me to have a premature baby while I was going into labour I phoned him and begged him to take me to hospital his reply was cold and uncaring and said he could not as he was at his dads and had no car as it was in repairs well I had the entire birth and labour without him soon after I was discharged he had an almost 6th sense I was out and came after me begging to see me and the baby and that he loved and missed me he barged into my place and told me he is going to the UK for 6 Months to earn money as he sees no future in this country I was of course upset that he was going to up and leave his new born he was he then stared fighting with me telling me how he hoped I died and that his child was everything to him and that I was nothing I ended things with him and he confessed to being in a relationship with a women and confessed to cheating on me with her while i was going into labour with our daughter I was hysterical and told him I was done and that it was over and to get out my life he tried to break the bars of my gate to get in and hurt me he was out raged I wanted out of the relationship and was not having it he told me how gorgeous she is and that she is a swim suit model he even sent a video of them making love of course I was devastated he blamed me for cheating and that if I had just been what he needed he would never have gone for her and that he still wanted me but I had to listen to him the cheek!!!!!!well of course it has been 10 days and I qm currently in NC he hasn&#039;t tried to contact me as he said his new girlfriend( the swim suit model)was down for Xmas and spending a few weeks with him this is the longest he hasn&#039;t contacted me I suspect its because she is down so he is lavishing in the glorious supply she is feeding him I have spoken to a previous ex of his and she experienced the same treatment as he gave me and that he harassed her for 6 months before giving up every  one who knows him and me knows he will be back to use the child to further control me and manipulate me he is leaving to the UK in a months time so I know I will have 6 month&#039;s more respite from him but I definitely feel he is gone this time his new supply is rich aswell and loved to gloat how she gave him money whenever he needed it he is doing all this and not paying a dime for his child I&#039;m so depressed and the thought of him being with this women is making me sick I feel he has discarded me and our daughter I don&#039;t want him in my life I hate him for everything he has caused me when my father died he actually said how happy the old bastard was dead and how he hoped he suffered a painful death I am no psychologist but I am convinced he is a narcissist/sociopath he has no empathy and is highly abusive he even proudly confessed how bad of a criminal mind he had and that him and I could have been the next bonnie and Clyde had I played my cards right with him I hate this man so much and I dread the day he hoovers again If he does I&#039;m seriously traumatized from this even though I&#039;m 10 days in NC I&#039;m straggling with depression and hope this nightmare ends soon]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was with a narcissist my second narcissist boyfriend for a year now this one was far more  malignant then the first one he was the type that would throw you to the wolves and enjoy watch you get eaten.he was sadistic in his nature evil and down right heartless.in the beginning he was so amazing  he told me he loved me on the first day the sex was amazing he could go for hours trying to go out his way to please me and showered with me attention and told me how beautiful I was and how happy he was that I wanted to be his girlfriend he wanted to get a place together immediately spoke fondly of marriage and how badly he wanted a family I was still recovering from my previousl relationship with a narc so I thought I was saved by this man but as the relationship began to progress he became extremely possessive and controlling he would go through my cell phone in front of me and swear at my friends I had on my phone including my family members he Turned my own sister against me I think she had given up on me when she told me so many times what a heartless narcissist he was and Still I was with this monster but it was already to late I was already in to deep when I would not answer his calls he would stalk my place threat end to break my things especially my phone he would smack it against his steering wheel or run his key along the screen telling me how much he wanted to break it because he was convinced I was sleeping around he found out I went out once and came to my flat and smashed one of the tentants cars aswell as stole her possessions out her car all because he was convinced I was seeing someone he left messages on my phone calling me names like whore bitch c%@and telling me how no man would want me as I have three kids and  reminded me that he has lots of young sexy women after him  i presume the other girls he slept with and that he can pick and choose and that I am a piece of shit to him that could easily be replaced and that he would kill me and the man I am with and make me suffer and enjoy watching me suffer he said this to me on a daily basis I became a nervous wreck he physically assaulted me and treated me like a sex slave he would want it whenever he felt like it irrespective of how I felt when I was on my period he demanded it and then said how disgusting piece of sh%@ I was for making him dirty the next day he was apparently done with me and blocked me and just like that I was gone two days later he suddenly unblocked me and began rubbing it it on my face at how amazing his new girlfriend was and how I worthless I was after all that I still took him back and he became more controlling and possessive over me he said he would keep me prisoner in his place so he could watch me like a hawk two days he locked me in his place while he went to work depriving me from seeing my kids I broke out and he came to my place and began smashing my personal belongings it was that very day he punched me in the throat and threw me into the ground and caused trouble with my family trying to turn them against me he turned all my friends and family against me aswell as good decent men that may have been interested in me he reminded me on a daily basis that no man would put up with what he puts up with I got to a point where I wanted out I was so miserable being with him that I disappeared for a month already finding out I was three months pregnant with his child he went into a narcissistic rampage and began stalking my Facebook bombarding me with messages contacting all my family members about my whereabouts and that he had every right to know where I was as I had his baby inside me this was after he had smashed my phone in my place in front of my dying father all while blaming me everything was my fault his messages to my family soon turned into being in tears and how madly in love he was with me and that he is dying without me in his life and begged my family how he would change and be a good man well I stupidly caved and contacted him I went to his place and he soon proposed to me and everything was back on track again well so i thought until he became more abusive to me he would go from saying he loved me to how he would kill me and the unborn child inside me he demanded my attention 24 7 and expected it on demand all while treating me like a piece of dirt I would spend weekends at his place with my daughters and he became spending a great deal of time with my oldest daughter who is 7 I would catch him spooning her in bed and he pushed for sex in front of my kids as I got heavier in the pregnancy he became more and more heartless and abusive and I suspected him of cheating he would show me pictures of very young attractive girls he was talking to behind my back and how he would marry them and take our child away and have them mother my child he threatened me on a daily basis how he would put my kids in Foster care all because I would not do as he said he said you need to listen to me and do as you told otherwise this will not work when I went into labour two months earlier then expected all due to the stress he inflicted on me caused me to have a premature baby while I was going into labour I phoned him and begged him to take me to hospital his reply was cold and uncaring and said he could not as he was at his dads and had no car as it was in repairs well I had the entire birth and labour without him soon after I was discharged he had an almost 6th sense I was out and came after me begging to see me and the baby and that he loved and missed me he barged into my place and told me he is going to the UK for 6 Months to earn money as he sees no future in this country I was of course upset that he was going to up and leave his new born he was he then stared fighting with me telling me how he hoped I died and that his child was everything to him and that I was nothing I ended things with him and he confessed to being in a relationship with a women and confessed to cheating on me with her while i was going into labour with our daughter I was hysterical and told him I was done and that it was over and to get out my life he tried to break the bars of my gate to get in and hurt me he was out raged I wanted out of the relationship and was not having it he told me how gorgeous she is and that she is a swim suit model he even sent a video of them making love of course I was devastated he blamed me for cheating and that if I had just been what he needed he would never have gone for her and that he still wanted me but I had to listen to him the cheek!!!!!!well of course it has been 10 days and I qm currently in NC he hasn&#8217;t tried to contact me as he said his new girlfriend( the swim suit model)was down for Xmas and spending a few weeks with him this is the longest he hasn&#8217;t contacted me I suspect its because she is down so he is lavishing in the glorious supply she is feeding him I have spoken to a previous ex of his and she experienced the same treatment as he gave me and that he harassed her for 6 months before giving up every  one who knows him and me knows he will be back to use the child to further control me and manipulate me he is leaving to the UK in a months time so I know I will have 6 month&#8217;s more respite from him but I definitely feel he is gone this time his new supply is rich aswell and loved to gloat how she gave him money whenever he needed it he is doing all this and not paying a dime for his child I&#8217;m so depressed and the thought of him being with this women is making me sick I feel he has discarded me and our daughter I don&#8217;t want him in my life I hate him for everything he has caused me when my father died he actually said how happy the old bastard was dead and how he hoped he suffered a painful death I am no psychologist but I am convinced he is a narcissist/sociopath he has no empathy and is highly abusive he even proudly confessed how bad of a criminal mind he had and that him and I could have been the next bonnie and Clyde had I played my cards right with him I hate this man so much and I dread the day he hoovers again If he does I&#8217;m seriously traumatized from this even though I&#8217;m 10 days in NC I&#8217;m straggling with depression and hope this nightmare ends soon</p>
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		By: Justine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2016 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this article! I am so in awe of the generously and help offered in the writings on this subject and this article, is a pearl. That &#039;time&#039; is irrelevant and frozen to the narcissist (just as their ability to love) has hit me like a bursting balloon. I am aware of the many intricate and other special characteristics these creatures contain but this thought is perfect and new to me - it makes complete sense!! It&#039;s hilarious that we are driven half crazy first, before crazy sounds sane... Such is the life of our recovery... But thank you, a thousand thank yous - I am &#039;Frozen&#039; to my hoovering ex who has the kids (weekends) as his permanent version of keeping an eye on me which is unfortunate but I have got gray rock down - I&#039;m all over it and we all &#039;work&#039; very well - until I love again, which is yet to happen... I learn more every day on how to go about dealing with that when the time comes...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article! I am so in awe of the generously and help offered in the writings on this subject and this article, is a pearl. That &#8216;time&#8217; is irrelevant and frozen to the narcissist (just as their ability to love) has hit me like a bursting balloon. I am aware of the many intricate and other special characteristics these creatures contain but this thought is perfect and new to me &#8211; it makes complete sense!! It&#8217;s hilarious that we are driven half crazy first, before crazy sounds sane&#8230; Such is the life of our recovery&#8230; But thank you, a thousand thank yous &#8211; I am &#8216;Frozen&#8217; to my hoovering ex who has the kids (weekends) as his permanent version of keeping an eye on me which is unfortunate but I have got gray rock down &#8211; I&#8217;m all over it and we all &#8216;work&#8217; very well &#8211; until I love again, which is yet to happen&#8230; I learn more every day on how to go about dealing with that when the time comes&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2016 04:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank G-d for this article. I left an 11 year relationship with a narc last year and only went real no contact about 3 months ago. Every time I had contact with him after leaving, it made everything so much harder. In any case, in the last month, he&#039;s started with sending me short texts saying &quot;are you ok?&quot;...which were hard enough to ignore....but today I got a doozy. The jist of it was that he was finally &quot;letting me go&quot;. That he loved me, was sorry he hurt and abused me, and hopes I find happiness. Now, mind you, this is someone that ran a smear campaign on me, had physically and emotionally abused me and truly tried to ruin my life. I know that under normal circumstances all that stuff sounds really sweet, but I just see it as so manipulative. I&#039;m not struggling not to contact him because I want him back, I&#039;m struggling because it&#039;s so hard to resist telling him off. I also feel like he&#039;s trying to take my decision to go NC and flip it. I was letting HIM go by refusing to engage...so he sends me this paragraph about letting ME go? Ugh...maybe that doesn&#039;t make any sense, but it makes me so angry. I mean, he already discarded me multiple times in multiple ways. I had nothing when I finally got out. Why keep letting me know he&#039;s letting me go over and over again? Is that just some twisted way to slash the wound back open. Eh...probably so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank G-d for this article. I left an 11 year relationship with a narc last year and only went real no contact about 3 months ago. Every time I had contact with him after leaving, it made everything so much harder. In any case, in the last month, he&#8217;s started with sending me short texts saying &#8220;are you ok?&#8221;&#8230;which were hard enough to ignore&#8230;.but today I got a doozy. The jist of it was that he was finally &#8220;letting me go&#8221;. That he loved me, was sorry he hurt and abused me, and hopes I find happiness. Now, mind you, this is someone that ran a smear campaign on me, had physically and emotionally abused me and truly tried to ruin my life. I know that under normal circumstances all that stuff sounds really sweet, but I just see it as so manipulative. I&#8217;m not struggling not to contact him because I want him back, I&#8217;m struggling because it&#8217;s so hard to resist telling him off. I also feel like he&#8217;s trying to take my decision to go NC and flip it. I was letting HIM go by refusing to engage&#8230;so he sends me this paragraph about letting ME go? Ugh&#8230;maybe that doesn&#8217;t make any sense, but it makes me so angry. I mean, he already discarded me multiple times in multiple ways. I had nothing when I finally got out. Why keep letting me know he&#8217;s letting me go over and over again? Is that just some twisted way to slash the wound back open. Eh&#8230;probably so.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 12:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand the difference between Hoovering and casual contact with an ex boyfriend . Hoovering is manipulation and control .It lacks any kind of true feeling or compassion .Actially it is a compulsion and obsession suffered by the N.
I had a relationship with N for five years and almost suffered a complete nervous breakdown .He destroyed my relationships with my family and friends . He is still Hoovering . I have had no contact for 4 weeks and he started ringing again from a private number . This time I am strong and laugh at his stupidity .You see we should pitty them for their addiction to other people&#039;s emotion weather positive or negative. Imagine living life this way . I feel good and on my way to true freedom .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the difference between Hoovering and casual contact with an ex boyfriend . Hoovering is manipulation and control .It lacks any kind of true feeling or compassion .Actially it is a compulsion and obsession suffered by the N.<br />
I had a relationship with N for five years and almost suffered a complete nervous breakdown .He destroyed my relationships with my family and friends . He is still Hoovering . I have had no contact for 4 weeks and he started ringing again from a private number . This time I am strong and laugh at his stupidity .You see we should pitty them for their addiction to other people&#8217;s emotion weather positive or negative. Imagine living life this way . I feel good and on my way to true freedom .</p>
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